On Sat, 21 Jan 2023 at 05:43, Patrik Schindler <poc@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Am 20.01.2023 um 23:04 schrieb Buck Calabro <kc2hiz@xxxxxxxxx>:

SEU is unscriptable. No alternative key bindings, no internal hooks/extension points and a block mode interface.

In addition, it features just a fraction of functionality being available in the likewise ISPF editor in MVS|OS/390|z/OS, despite it's look and feel being almost equal.

I never used ISPF, but VM's XEDIT is also feature-rich, has a Rexx
macro facility - and yet is green screen! [1] Many years ago, I was at
a Midrange conference, and I asked one of the IBM presenters about
this general question: why is SEU so...featureless? Of course no
official IBMer is going to disparage any IBM software, so his answer
to me was generic. But he left me with the distinct impression that
IBM wanted to encourage a 3rd party software market for tooling like

As always in these kind of threads, I am not casting aspersions on any
particular editor or the users thereof. If you and your workflow
thrive with SEU, well there you are. My only points were to note why -
as an RPG maintenance programmer - SEU isn't my personal first choice,
and why RDi is. It's all about the use case. I think we can all agree
that for some simple tasks, all of us have used PDM and SEU no matter
what our 'usual' tooling is. I have a wish list for RDi that I'd love
to see IBM deliver [2], but I must note that they did already deliver
Refactor-Rename, which is super nice to have!


[1] https://www-40.ibm.com/servers/resourcelink/svc0302a.nsf/pages/zVMV7R1sc246337/$file/dmsb6_v7r1.pdf
[2] If the token table were available I could have written
Refactor-Rename myself and let IBM do the really hard stuff. Note that
while this has been at the top of my personal wish list for decades,
it doesn't appear on anyone else's at all, which tells you something
about my peculiar work habits!

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