Re: Format command for externally-described

[Daniel Gross <daniel@xxxxxxxx>]

I agree on your opinion about RDi - best thing that happened to IBM i development. Don't get me wrong, VScode is OK, but I don't get warm with it. Not with Java, not with C# and also not with IBM i development.

But on the 5250 thing, I have a strong other opinion. 5250 is for IBM i what BASH is for Linux or PowerShell for Windows - and even better, because it provides a clean "transactional view" for the applications that run there - not only an uncontrolled data stream. 

But let me say it like this - lets not start that "flame war" again, because it has been discussed over and over, and I don't see any progress in this topic. 99.9% of the IT world is now convinced, that anything other that a HTTPS / HTML data stream based UI is old, obsolete, bad and useless - so lets keep it this way.

Just my 2ct.
Daniel



> Am 19.01.2023 um 19:42 schrieb Jason Olson <josys36@xxxxxxxxx>:
>
> I agree. When I started coding on IBM i full time in 2000, a coworker introduced me to Code/400, and I haven't looked back since.
>
> Today I code GUI applications and for the life of me, I cannot understand the clinging to SEU that developers do. RDi in and of itself provides a TON of functionality that SEU could never provide, and anyone starting out on IBM i in 2023 sure as daylight doesn't want to code in a 5250 terminal application, more or less write 5250 apps.
>
> Yes RDi costs money, but tools do. That's just part of the way of doing things. I pay for tools I use in Python development so yes sometimes you are gonna pay.
>
> IBM i is an amazing platform. But, let's ditch 5250 anything. Please!
>
>
> Jason
>
> > On 1/19/23 10:50, Jon Paris wrote:
> > Sorry, James - I just don't agree - or perhaps understand.
> >
> > SEU was old long and clunky long before free-form RPG came along and that removed the only thing it was ever any good at - namely syntax checking the code.  Now you can't even do that if you use any feature introduced in the past 10 years or so.
> >
> >
> > Jon P
> >
> >
> >
> > > > On Jan 19, 2023, at 11:44 AM, James H. H. Lampert via RPG400-L <rpg400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > On 1/19/23 8:37 AM, Jon Paris wrote:
> > > > But why oh why use SEU?  Sigh ...
> > > Because you're accessing the box from a terminal session?
> > >
> > > Because you're an old terminal-jock?
> > >
> > > Because you LIKE SEU?
> > >
> > > --
> > > JHHL
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