Well, I've been called "ignorant, shortsighted, or disingenuous" before, and
while it might make you feel better to back off a bit later, this is the
bottom line:
RDi is IBMs product to do with as they please.
You may purchase it or not. Your call.
You may use it or not, your call.
The current pricing model is as stated. If you really want to change it,
either become a Senior VP at IBM with responsibility to that budget/revenue
stream or get IBM to sell it to you so you can do what you please with it.
In the meantime, IBM has stated its policy and that is where it stays. (I
happen to support their policy, so your opinion is not universal)
Enough.
--
Jim Oberholtzer
Agile Technology Architects
-----Original Message-----
From: RPG400-L <rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of John Yeung
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 10:54 AM
To: RPG programming on the IBM i (AS/400 and iSeries)
<rpg400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: SEU support for Free format in the F and D specs
On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 9:38 AM Jim Oberholtzer
<midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
As Jon Paris pointed out, when WSCDi was included in the software cost
for the compilers, (It was never "Free") no one cared. As soon as it
became a separate product, then interest went way up.
Well, it's either ignorant, shortsighted, or disingenuous to somehow come to
the conclusion that unbundling and charging separately
*caused* the increased interest. I'm not saying you are espousing this
conclusion, because your very next comment is:
Part of that is due to feature/function, part of it is general
awareness, part of it was pure marketing.
So it seems you recognize that there are other factors at play. Which makes
me question the following:
Been there / done that / not gonna happen again........
Rebundling, or lowering the cost, or including one license, or any number of
other measures, if done TODAY, would NOT be the same thing as including
WDSCi THEN. As you just mentioned, there is a lot more awareness today than
there was then, and simply rebundling won't somehow turn that off. The
feature/function factor is big. Not only is RDi vastly more capable than
WDSCi, back then SEU supported all the latest language features; today it
does not. I know some people claim that WDSCi always ran perfectly fine on
hardware of the time, but I am also 100% sure that I and others did NOT find
WDSCi to run fine on our machines of the time, whereas RDi runs fine (or at
least comparatively
better) on our machines today.
It really irks me when people say "we did X before and it didn't work, so
why would we even think about doing X again now"?
Doing the so-called "same thing" and expecting different results is NOT the
definition of insanity. What's insane to me is behaving as though conditions
are somehow the same for all eternity. The world is a different place now.
Open source isn't just a niche thing anymore.
The current generation of programmers don't have the same sensibilities or
workflows as the programmers from WDSCi's day. (And IBM does want to attract
newer, younger programmers, right?)
I'm not saying that doing X now will *necessarily* work when X didn't work
before. But I am saying that assuming it *can't* work now, and categorically
rejecting it *because* it didn't work before is an uncompelling and lazy
argument.
John Y.
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