RE: SEU support for Free format in the F and D specs

As Jon Paris pointed out, when WSCDi was included in the software cost for
the compilers, (It was never "Free") no one cared. As soon as it became a
separate product, then interest went way up.

Part of that is due to feature/function, part of it is general awareness,
part of it was pure marketing.

Been there / done that / not gonna happen again........

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-----Original Message-----
From: RPG400-L <rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Greg Wilburn
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 8:00 AM
To: RPG programming on the IBM i (AS/400 and iSeries)
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Subject: RE: SEU support for Free format in the F and D specs

Not to "beat a dead horse" here... but I still find it appalling that IBM
doesn't include at least one license of RDi when you purchase the software
dev tools and compilers.

Just seems like a really stupid move to me.

-----Original Message-----
From: RPG400-L [mailto:rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Vernon
Hamberg
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 8:53 AM
To: RPG programming on the IBM i (AS/400 and iSeries)
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Subject: Re: SEU support for Free format in the F and D specs

LOL - that's why I'm here, right? To obfuscate the obvious!!

V.

On 12/19/2018 9:19 PM, B Stone wrote:

Clear as mud, Vern. :)

On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 5:31 PM Vernon Hamberg
<vhamberg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Thomas

I think I already responded to an earlier post like this. Whatever,

right?

List price US$ for the authorized user license is $1120 - annual
maintenance could be $250 or so.

There was around a 30% discount if you trade seats of ADTS
(Application Developer Tool Set), the green-screen development tools
on the IBM i. So now you're down to less than $800 - we do that for every

copy we license.

Maintenance is based on the list price. But after 2 years, your cost
with the discount is about $1050, after 3 years, $1300.

The floating license price on the site Buck gives is $913 - you have
to pay that amount every year, it is a limited-to-one-year license
with maintenance for the year. Personally I don't see much benefit to
getting this license - others can speak to that.

After 2 years, your cost is $1825, after 3 years, $2738. for one
license
- now, yes, if you had 2 licenses and had 2 people using them in a
day at different times, it would be like $1350 per developer after 3

years.

Authorized user would be $1300, just a bit more.

But go to 4 years - now the per developer for 2 floating is $1825 and
total cost for authorized per developer is $1550 or less.

I could be off some here, but it seems as you go out in years, it's
better to get the authorized for everyone.

If you had 3 people using the floating per day, you would push the
break-even out more, but you would get there, probably in 6 or 7
years, at a wild guess.

I just hope you can get the powers to see the benefit of using this
vastly better tooling.

Regards
Vern

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