Yes... but the biggest difference between WDSCi "then" and RDi "now" is exactly what the OP ran into. There are too many "new" features (like totally FREE formatting) that make SEU nearly impossible to use.
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From: RPG400-L [mailto:rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Oberholtzer
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 9:38 AM
To: 'RPG programming on the IBM i (AS/400 and iSeries)' <rpg400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: SEU support for Free format in the F and D specs
As Jon Paris pointed out, when WSCDi was included in the software cost for the compilers, (It was never "Free") no one cared. As soon as it became a separate product, then interest went way up.
Part of that is due to feature/function, part of it is general awareness, part of it was pure marketing.
Been there / done that / not gonna happen again........
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Jim Oberholtzer
Agile Technology Architects
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From: RPG400-L <rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Greg Wilburn
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 8:00 AM
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Subject: RE: SEU support for Free format in the F and D specs
Not to "beat a dead horse" here... but I still find it appalling that IBM doesn't include at least one license of RDi when you purchase the software
dev tools and compilers.
Just seems like a really stupid move to me.
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From: RPG400-L [mailto:rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Vernon Hamberg
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 8:53 AM
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Subject: Re: SEU support for Free format in the F and D specs
LOL - that's why I'm here, right? To obfuscate the obvious!!
V.
On 12/19/2018 9:19 PM, B Stone wrote:
Clear as mud, Vern. :)
On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 5:31 PM Vernon Hamberg
<vhamberg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Thomas
I think I already responded to an earlier post like this. Whatever,
right?
List price US$ for the authorized user license is $1120 - annual
maintenance could be $250 or so.
There was around a 30% discount if you trade seats of ADTS
(Application Developer Tool Set), the green-screen development tools
on the IBM i. So now you're down to less than $800 - we do that for
every
copy we license.
Maintenance is based on the list price. But after 2 years, your cost
with the discount is about $1050, after 3 years, $1300.
The floating license price on the site Buck gives is $913 - you have
to pay that amount every year, it is a limited-to-one-year license
with maintenance for the year. Personally I don't see much benefit to
getting this license - others can speak to that.
After 2 years, your cost is $1825, after 3 years, $2738. for one
license
- now, yes, if you had 2 licenses and had 2 people using them in a
day at different times, it would be like $1350 per developer after 3
years.
Authorized user would be $1300, just a bit more.
But go to 4 years - now the per developer for 2 floating is $1825 and
total cost for authorized per developer is $1550 or less.
I could be off some here, but it seems as you go out in years, it's
better to get the authorized for everyone.
If you had 3 people using the floating per day, you would push the
break-even out more, but you would get there, probably in 6 or 7
years, at a wild guess.
I just hope you can get the powers to see the benefit of using this
vastly better tooling.
Regards
Vern
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