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I think you are being overly harsh John.

Most IBM i users prefer the LICPGM approach - indeed even the new OS offerings are done that way for that reason. Most ISVs use that approach too because their customers demand it. On most (all?) multi-user platforms there is some requirement for administrator level authority to be able to install software and modify server permissions etc. It seems to me that you are blaming IBM and Zend for the fact that your management have not given you sufficient authority to install the stuff you want to play with.

Zend are a between a rock and a hard place in some ways. Their version of PHP is not free - they charge for it on all platforms - except that on IBM i IBM pick up the tab. I know in the past, when the fact that it was completely free was perhaps a little more obvious on their web site, that Zend received many complaints from AIX users in particular (same Power hardware platform) asking why it wasn't free for them.


Jon Paris

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On Jan 25, 2017, at 8:41 PM, John Yeung <gallium.arsenide@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 7:50 PM, Jon Paris <jon.paris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Don't know where you have been looking John but this page http://www.zend.com/en/solutions/modernize-ibm-i has a download button.

There are download buttons all over the place. That's not the problem.
The problem is that I can't find out what I need to know from the
site. Am I wrong for wanting to know what I'm getting into before I
download something?

Note - it is a LICPGM so it needs an admin instal.

Right out for me, then. :(

And see, right there, that is something that they could have said up
front somewhere. It would suck to jump through the hoops of
registering and downloading the... what... 400+ meg archive... only to
find out that I can't do anything with it anyway.

The way it currently works is this. [big spiel]

Hope that makes it clear.

Um, I would use a different word: unambiguous. Maybe clear by IBM
midrange standards. And it's certainly a lot more information (that is
actually useful to me) than what I found on the site, so thank you for
that.

I am getting the distinct impression that the current Zend PHP for i
package is a GREAT experience by IBM midrange standards. This is a
completely different experience than what I'm used to with open source
on mainstream platforms.

John Y.
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