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> I would think that even if the law was changed so that a program >author retained all the rights to whatever programs he wrote, the >inevitable result would be that every company's employment agreement >would require you to forgo those rights, or no job. The problem is not a problem of authorship, but of attribution and derivitives. I run into this problem all the time in writing articles containing code: The code is not the expression, but the working system of information is. A line of code, no matter how elegantly written, is simply that. However, a complete information system that functions in a uniquely elegant manner can not be easily dismissed. Nevertheless, the employer wants to owns the resulting work the complete system -- needs to own it to do his business. So writing a system is structurally and systematically more akin to creating art or architecture than to writing literature. And, by analogy, what the artist wants and needs is attribution and a halt to derivitives that do not provide attribution. Attribution to a programmer means that his/her name appears with the work -- not buried in the code, but available in help-text and "about" screens. It allows the value of the talent to be recognized by others who care about such things. It strengthens the recognition of the individual talent, making it easier for him/her to find other jobs, and increasing reputation and worth. Halting derivitives means that the ideas can't be pawned off piecemeal without providing attribution. That means the module that does amortization functions as a complete entity, as a sub-package, with its own modular attributions. The best way, in my opinion, to build attribution is to write *about* the system in public places -- forums like this, or technical journals. User groups are also good vehicles. Some feel that this is self-promotion and find it distasteful, but it's really a part of managing your own career. By sharing the "secrets" of your thought processes, you show your mastery. I can only relate my own experience: In 1982 I created a fermentation control system for the Robert Mondavi Winery in California. I was asked to write an article about it, and that led to some recognition by my peers, which led to new opportunities, consulting contracts, and some measure of a reputation. How effective is this? The place where I live is about 5000 people large and the nearest "large" town of 15K is 40 miles away. But my meager influence in the community of professionals is steadily grew larger, and now 100 % of my income comes from outside that physical community, is completely "virtual", and I am constantly busy with projects. A copyright would have done nothing for me: how many people really want a wine fermentation control system? (Ok, some of us would!) But attribution to talent allows you to expand your reputation and broaden horizons: new, more interesting projects come your way. (Where copyrights or rights come into play is when you publish: only sell first serial rights, or negotiate for secondary and derivitive rights with publishers when you talk or write about your work.) It's the quality of thought that differentiates the tract-house from the Frank Loyd Wrights of the world. (And god knows, I ain't drawing personal comparison ...Just showing how attribution works.) Everything inside is still brick, mortor, and timber. But for FLWright, even a chair from one of is houses is recognized as being attributed to him, and therfore valuable. The trick is to figure out how to get the attribution. This debate about rights and copyrights for programmers has been going on for 25 years. It's a dead-end unless you go into business for yourself, or you change your mind-set about what it is that you're creating. Thomas M. Stockwell +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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