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  • Subject: RE: What are a programmer's rights to what he writes?
  • From: Joel Fritz <JFritz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 28 May 2000 10:22:07 -0700

When I was a heat treater, one of the guys I worked with was given a more
prestigious title and put on salary at what translated to a higher hourly
rate (for a 40 hour week.)  Because of the loss of overtime for the 60 hour
weeks he continued to work, it worked out to a substantial pay cut. 

-----Original Message-----
From: boothm@earth.Goddard.edu [mailto:boothm@earth.Goddard.edu]
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2000 8:51 PM
To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
Subject: Re: What are a programmer's rights to what he writes?


I am curious though about one part of your comment "the programmers would
work long hours and 
still only get their salary.".  How did Year-end wages compare?  After the
time and a half was added 
in, did the union workers earn anywhere near what the programmers earned 
on "only their salaries"??  I'm not a union guy in any way but for most 
union people, even after everything is added in, they still don't make all 
that much money.

_______________________
Booth Martin
booth@martinvt.com
http://www.MartinVT.com
_______________________




"System Support Products, Inc." <lforlini@sspi-software.com>
Sent by: owner-midrange-l@midrange.com
05/26/2000 10:21 PM
Please respond to MIDRANGE-L

 
        To:     MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
        cc: 
        Subject:        Re: What are a programmer's rights to what he
writes?

At 5:08 PM -0400 5/26/00, MacWheel99@aol.com wrote:
[snip]
>I heard a union story out of Australia ... is this urban legend ... 
computer
>workers there are unionized ... programmer union worker cannot change the
>paper in a printer because that is the computer operator union job.

Al,

    Did some work for a shop right here in the good ol' USA where this 
was the case.  Programmers couldn't mount tapes or do anything in the 
computer room (OK, the mounting tapes thing shows how long ago this 
was :)

    BTW, at this company the programmers were NOT unionized, only the 
operators.  The operators got shift differentials, time and a half 
overtime, etc.  Many times the programmers would work long hours and 
still only get their salary.

    Regards,


    - Lou Forlini
      Software Engineer
      System Support Products, Inc.


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