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When I was a heat treater, one of the guys I worked with was given a more prestigious title and put on salary at what translated to a higher hourly rate (for a 40 hour week.) Because of the loss of overtime for the 60 hour weeks he continued to work, it worked out to a substantial pay cut. -----Original Message----- From: boothm@earth.Goddard.edu [mailto:boothm@earth.Goddard.edu] Sent: Friday, May 26, 2000 8:51 PM To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com Subject: Re: What are a programmer's rights to what he writes? I am curious though about one part of your comment "the programmers would work long hours and still only get their salary.". How did Year-end wages compare? After the time and a half was added in, did the union workers earn anywhere near what the programmers earned on "only their salaries"?? I'm not a union guy in any way but for most union people, even after everything is added in, they still don't make all that much money. _______________________ Booth Martin booth@martinvt.com http://www.MartinVT.com _______________________ "System Support Products, Inc." <lforlini@sspi-software.com> Sent by: owner-midrange-l@midrange.com 05/26/2000 10:21 PM Please respond to MIDRANGE-L To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com cc: Subject: Re: What are a programmer's rights to what he writes? At 5:08 PM -0400 5/26/00, MacWheel99@aol.com wrote: [snip] >I heard a union story out of Australia ... is this urban legend ... computer >workers there are unionized ... programmer union worker cannot change the >paper in a printer because that is the computer operator union job. Al, Did some work for a shop right here in the good ol' USA where this was the case. Programmers couldn't mount tapes or do anything in the computer room (OK, the mounting tapes thing shows how long ago this was :) BTW, at this company the programmers were NOT unionized, only the operators. The operators got shift differentials, time and a half overtime, etc. Many times the programmers would work long hours and still only get their salary. Regards, - Lou Forlini Software Engineer System Support Products, Inc. +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +--- +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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