Re: XML and AS/400 -- MIDRANGE-L

I don't mean anything by this but are you saying that such
non-conformity is acceptable? 

My main fear, and I think something which Jim is hinting at, is that XML
stands a chance of becoming another M$ victim. Microsoft's XML++, if
there is any money to be made in something like XML++ you can bet
microsoft would be in the paint. 
And before someone starts yelling about XML being driven by the open
source movement and there being no way Bill can get his hands on XML,
just take a look at what M$ did to java. J++ does not produce 100% pure
java, never did never will. Because there was toooooo much money falling
through the cracks for BG's liking.

David Prowak wrote:
> 
> But why would you possibly believe that a proprietary version of Java would
> run on Netscape?????
> 
> Microsoft's Front Page, infamous for the garbage, non-standard code that it
> spews, revels in producing tables
> without closing tags.  Is it any coincidence that NN chokes on a page that
> is missing closing tags?????
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jim Langston <jlangston@conexfreight.com>
> To: <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2000 3:28 PM
> Subject: Re: XML and AS/400
> 
> > I tend to agree.  Soon after Java came out (maybe a year or two)
> > I was looking for compilers to buy.  I saw Delphi (Pascal) for $79,
> > VC++ for $190 or so, and J++ for $29.  I only had a little over a
> > hundred with me, so I bought the Delphi (which we at that point
> > used at work) and J++ 1.0, figuring $29 was enough to waste if it wasn't
> > any good.
> >
> > I took both home and installed them, and was writing programs in
> > Delphi rather quickly (inside 1/2 an hour, as I already knew the language
> > and compiler).
> >
> > Then I turned to J++ (Microsoft's first version of Java I believe) and
> > tried to work with it.  I had a real application I wanted to write, a
> family
> > tree program I could stick on my home page and let people "browse"
> > my family tree and add any entries they knew about (which I would
> > research and make sure they were correct before applying).  After a
> > week or so of trying to get the very first piece done, showing a picture
> > of a tree I had found, I gave up.  It would work in IE, but not in
> > Netscape.  And even in IE it didn't do it the way I wanted it to, even
> > though I was following the examples, and searching news groups, etc..
> >
> > 1.0 of just about anything is horrible, I understand.  But unless you
> > want to pay to be a beta tester (I usually beta test for free) stay away
> > from very new technology unless you have a very pressing reason to
> > use it immediately.  It will always take so much more resources to do
> > something in a "new" language than in a tried and true language,
> > just because it's been extensively debugged through use, for one
> > thing, and a lot of the tools have already been written.
> >
> > In fact, I think I still have the Microsoft J++ 1.0 set at home.  What
> > to do with it?  Think it'll be a collectors item some day?  lol
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Jim Langston
> >
> > "L. S. Russell" wrote:
> >
> > > Nobody is saying ignore XML, just let it mature. Bandwagon jumpers
> > > should learn to use a little restraint.
> > > "Anybody who has every tried to implement EDI knows that the X12
> > > standard", he says with a chuckle "is anything but standard." And yet,
> > > thanks to all the bandwagon jumpers, and corporate profit centers we are
> > > forced to re-map ASN's for each and every freakin new customer.
> > > And so far XML is only slightly less disjointed a standard "again
> > > laughing".
> >
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