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But why would you possibly believe that a proprietary version of Java would run on Netscape????? Microsoft's Front Page, infamous for the garbage, non-standard code that it spews, revels in producing tables without closing tags. Is it any coincidence that NN chokes on a page that is missing closing tags????? ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Langston <jlangston@conexfreight.com> To: <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com> Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2000 3:28 PM Subject: Re: XML and AS/400 > I tend to agree. Soon after Java came out (maybe a year or two) > I was looking for compilers to buy. I saw Delphi (Pascal) for $79, > VC++ for $190 or so, and J++ for $29. I only had a little over a > hundred with me, so I bought the Delphi (which we at that point > used at work) and J++ 1.0, figuring $29 was enough to waste if it wasn't > any good. > > I took both home and installed them, and was writing programs in > Delphi rather quickly (inside 1/2 an hour, as I already knew the language > and compiler). > > Then I turned to J++ (Microsoft's first version of Java I believe) and > tried to work with it. I had a real application I wanted to write, a family > tree program I could stick on my home page and let people "browse" > my family tree and add any entries they knew about (which I would > research and make sure they were correct before applying). After a > week or so of trying to get the very first piece done, showing a picture > of a tree I had found, I gave up. It would work in IE, but not in > Netscape. And even in IE it didn't do it the way I wanted it to, even > though I was following the examples, and searching news groups, etc.. > > 1.0 of just about anything is horrible, I understand. But unless you > want to pay to be a beta tester (I usually beta test for free) stay away > from very new technology unless you have a very pressing reason to > use it immediately. It will always take so much more resources to do > something in a "new" language than in a tried and true language, > just because it's been extensively debugged through use, for one > thing, and a lot of the tools have already been written. > > In fact, I think I still have the Microsoft J++ 1.0 set at home. What > to do with it? Think it'll be a collectors item some day? lol > > Regards, > > Jim Langston > > "L. S. Russell" wrote: > > > Nobody is saying ignore XML, just let it mature. Bandwagon jumpers > > should learn to use a little restraint. > > "Anybody who has every tried to implement EDI knows that the X12 > > standard", he says with a chuckle "is anything but standard." And yet, > > thanks to all the bandwagon jumpers, and corporate profit centers we are > > forced to re-map ASN's for each and every freakin new customer. > > And so far XML is only slightly less disjointed a standard "again > > laughing". > > +--- > | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! > | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. > | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. > | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. > | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com > +--- > +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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