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But why would you possibly believe that a proprietary version of Java would
run on Netscape?????

Microsoft's Front Page, infamous for the garbage, non-standard code that it
spews, revels in producing tables
without closing tags.  Is it any coincidence that NN chokes on a page that
is missing closing tags?????

----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Langston <jlangston@conexfreight.com>
To: <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2000 3:28 PM
Subject: Re: XML and AS/400


> I tend to agree.  Soon after Java came out (maybe a year or two)
> I was looking for compilers to buy.  I saw Delphi (Pascal) for $79,
> VC++ for $190 or so, and J++ for $29.  I only had a little over a
> hundred with me, so I bought the Delphi (which we at that point
> used at work) and J++ 1.0, figuring $29 was enough to waste if it wasn't
> any good.
>
> I took both home and installed them, and was writing programs in
> Delphi rather quickly (inside 1/2 an hour, as I already knew the language
> and compiler).
>
> Then I turned to J++ (Microsoft's first version of Java I believe) and
> tried to work with it.  I had a real application I wanted to write, a
family
> tree program I could stick on my home page and let people "browse"
> my family tree and add any entries they knew about (which I would
> research and make sure they were correct before applying).  After a
> week or so of trying to get the very first piece done, showing a picture
> of a tree I had found, I gave up.  It would work in IE, but not in
> Netscape.  And even in IE it didn't do it the way I wanted it to, even
> though I was following the examples, and searching news groups, etc..
>
> 1.0 of just about anything is horrible, I understand.  But unless you
> want to pay to be a beta tester (I usually beta test for free) stay away
> from very new technology unless you have a very pressing reason to
> use it immediately.  It will always take so much more resources to do
> something in a "new" language than in a tried and true language,
> just because it's been extensively debugged through use, for one
> thing, and a lot of the tools have already been written.
>
> In fact, I think I still have the Microsoft J++ 1.0 set at home.  What
> to do with it?  Think it'll be a collectors item some day?  lol
>
> Regards,
>
> Jim Langston
>
> "L. S. Russell" wrote:
>
> > Nobody is saying ignore XML, just let it mature. Bandwagon jumpers
> > should learn to use a little restraint.
> > "Anybody who has every tried to implement EDI knows that the X12
> > standard", he says with a chuckle "is anything but standard." And yet,
> > thanks to all the bandwagon jumpers, and corporate profit centers we are
> > forced to re-map ASN's for each and every freakin new customer.
> > And so far XML is only slightly less disjointed a standard "again
> > laughing".
>
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