Re: XML and AS/400

[John Hall <jhall@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

I think leslie & jim and myself are just tired of hearing that Delphi
isn't OO or c++ isn't OO unless you do it correctly but somehow java,
however you do it, is OO.

I was doing OO in c++ in 1992. <GEEZ ALERT>  Yeah all the buzz words
(polymorphism, encapsulation etc).
I mean FULL OO - every sense of the term.  Been working on PC based OO
stuff side by side with midrange ever since.  
  Yet 8 years later ....

> > And using an OO language does NOT mean you use object oriented design.  
I have heard that line hundreds if not thousands of times.  It almost
always comes from someone who has dabbled in OO - not that there's
anything wrong with that ;)

So I guess some of us are a little worn down about hearing how
complicated OO is and it seems that no matter what you say nobody
believes that you are really doing OO.  


So maybe Jim isn't very exceptional - he's just as used to it as some
others are used to RPG.
  (not that he isn't of course)

So please forgive us our thin skins on this one :)

John 
> 
> Bob Crothers wrote:
> 
> > L.S.,
> >
> > Rest assured, this is NOT what I was trying to say (that anybody was "not
> > intelligent").
> >
> > Most of the members on this list do fit into the "procedural language"
> > category because they are AS/400 folks.
> >
> > And using an OO language does NOT mean you use object oriented design.  I
> > wrote C using a C++ compiler for over a year.
> >
> > Object Oriented is not complicated...but it is DIFFERENT!  And it takes time
> > to learn.  But it is well worth learning.  Not because of Java, but because
> > of OO.
> >
> > If you are that rare exception that can move from a procedural language to
> > object oriented design in a matter of days and with no pain, then one of 2
> > things apply: You are using your OO language to do procedural programming
> > (very possible, even with Java), -or- you are one very exceptional
> > programmer and I am blinded by your brilliance.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Bob
>
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