Re: Developer's AS/400 (was: CODE400 4 Free)

["SImon Coulter" <shc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hello Dave, Sue, et al,

If you are serious about a development AS/400 (that is, one on which to develop 
AS/400 
products for resale as opposed to one at home to play with) then join IBM's 
Partners 
In Development (now called PartnerWorld) organisation.  Go to 

        http://www.developer.ibm.com/
or
        http://www.as400.ibm.com/developer

You must enroll indic=vidually first (and this level is useful for all AS/400 
developers) and then enroll at one of the commercial levels.

**IF** you have a commercial idea and can present a business case for it you 
can then 
ask the PID support for discounts on hardware and software which significantly 
outweigh the cost of commercial PID membership.  There are some restrictions on 
what 
you can use an AS/400 purchased under this scheme for but they are not at all 
onerous.

Phone your local IBM branch and find out who is the local representative for 
AS/400 
PID and talk to them about your idea.

Stop bitching at IBM when in this case they are actually providing good 
support.  
Perhaps they could let developers know about this in a more straight-forward 
manner 
but **IF** you are serious about AS/400 development wouldn't you be talking to 
IBM 
anyway?

Regards,
Simon Coulter.

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> Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 18:35:17 -0400
> From: "Dave Mahadevan" <mahadevan@fuse.net>
> To: CODE400-L@midrange.com
> Reply-To: CODE400-L@midrange.com
> Subject: Developer's AS/400 (was: CODE400 4 Free)

> 
> I second and third this.  This is a great idea and extremely suitable for a
> 170/270.  This will also bring in more developers thus making the AS/400
> platform as a solid alternate to the buggy NT.
> 
> Maybe IBM can kindly request the buyer from using it as a production machine 
>and
> prevent sales erosion from 7xx and 8xx series.   But IBM should refrain from
> crippling the system because of the pricing.
> 
> "MCPARTLAND, Stan" wrote:
> 
> > Edmund,
> >
> > This is a bit off your topic, but I thought I'd use your request for input
> > as an opportunity.  I would like to see a small AS/400 with all of the
> > development tools, CODE/400, SQL, ADTS, etc., that was priced so it was
> > affordable for home ownership.  At $5,000 I'd buy one today and worry about
> > how I was going to pay my credit card bill later.  Based on response to a
> > similar message I posted on midrange-l early this year, there is significant
> > interest in a small development AS/400 in this price range.  The price of
> > the new 250-2295 is a bit high, but not unreasonable if it came with all of
> > the development tools and Client Access.  You could limit it to a few users
> > to prevent it from being used as normal production machine.  An AS/400 in
> > this range would allow developers the opportunity to experiment and perhaps
> > come up with new products that would increase AS/400 sales.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Stan McPartland
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: edmund.reinhardt@ca.ibm.com [mailto:edmund.reinhardt@ca.ibm.com]
> > Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 10:16 AM
> > To: CODE400-L@midrange.com
> > Subject: Re: CODE400 4 Free
> >
> > Sorry Martin,
> >
> > I've probably already said more than the lawyers would allow me ;-)  I can
> > say that from the feedback we have been getting, we think that developers
> > want 
mething like "Visual Studio" for AS/400.  One integrated package of
> > tools with one price.  No more complexities of ordering piece parts here
> > and there and learning the quirks of each one.  That is the strategy we are
> > actively pursuing this very minute.
> >
> > I am afraid that I cannot get any more specific than that.  If you think
> > this is right or wrong, we would be happy to hear from you.
> --
> Thank You.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Dave Mahadevan.. mailto:mahadevan@fuse.net

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