RE: Developer's AS/400 (was: CODE400 4 Free)

["Bennett, Stephen" <Stephen.Bennett@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Good ye, but it's a complete nightmare to get membership..................
Most developers wouldn't like the red tape involved, I don't................
Also no local support here for this package, have to deal with staff on a
different part of the planet, which wouldn't be to bad if all the garabge
was canned.............
It a good idea but I reckon some head in IBM decided not too make it too
easy for developer access.............

Your keywords are ..........
restrictions......
registeration
local branch


> -----Original Message-----
> From: SImon Coulter [SMTP:shc@flybynight.com.au]
> Sent: 03 June 2000 02:44
> To:   CODE400-L@midrange.com
> Subject:      Re: Developer's AS/400 (was: CODE400 4 Free)
> 
> 
> Hello Dave, Sue, et al,
> 
> If you are serious about a development AS/400 (that is, one on which to
> develop AS/400 
> products for resale as opposed to one at home to play with) then join
> IBM's Partners 
> In Development (now called PartnerWorld) organisation.  Go to 
> 
>       http://www.developer.ibm.com/
> or
>       http://www.as400.ibm.com/developer
> 
> You must enroll indic=vidually first (and this level is useful for all
> AS/400 
> developers) and then enroll at one of the commercial levels.
> 
> **IF** you have a commercial idea and can present a business case for it
> you can then 
> ask the PID support for discounts on hardware and software which
> significantly 
> outweigh the cost of commercial PID membership.  There are some
> restrictions on what 
> you can use an AS/400 purchased under this scheme for but they are not at
> all onerous.
> 
> Phone your local IBM branch and find out who is the local representative
> for AS/400 
> PID and talk to them about your idea.
> 
> Stop bitching at IBM when in this case they are actually providing good
> support.  
> Perhaps they could let developers know about this in a more
> straight-forward manner 
> but **IF** you are serious about AS/400 development wouldn't you be
> talking to IBM 
> anyway?
> 
> Regards,
> Simon Coulter.
> 
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> > Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 18:35:17 -0400
> > From: "Dave Mahadevan" <mahadevan@fuse.net>
> > To: CODE400-L@midrange.com
> > Reply-To: CODE400-L@midrange.com
> > Subject: Developer's AS/400 (was: CODE400 4 Free)
> 
> > 
> > I second and third this.  This is a great idea and extremely suitable
> for a
> > 170/270.  This will also bring in more developers thus making the AS/400
> > platform as a solid alternate to the buggy NT.
> > 
> > Maybe IBM can kindly request the buyer from using it as a production
> machine and
> > prevent sales erosion from 7xx and 8xx series.   But IBM should refrain
> from
> > crippling the system because of the pricing.
> > 
> > "MCPARTLAND, Stan" wrote:
> > 
> > > Edmund,
> > >
> > > This is a bit off your topic, but I thought I'd use your request for
> input
> > > as an opportunity.  I would like to see a small AS/400 with all of the
> > > development tools, CODE/400, SQL, ADTS, etc., that was priced so it
> was
> > > affordable for home ownership.  At $5,000 I'd buy one today and worry
> about
> > > how I was going to pay my credit card bill later.  Based on response
> to a
> > > similar message I posted on midrange-l early this year, there is
> significant
> > > interest in a small development AS/400 in this price range.  The price
> of
> > > the new 250-2295 is a bit high, but not unreasonable if it came with
> all of
> > > the development tools and Client Access.  You could limit it to a few
> users
> > > to prevent it from being used as normal production machine.  An AS/400
> in
> > > this range would allow developers the opportunity to experiment and
> perhaps
> > > come up with new products that would increase AS/400 sales.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Stan McPartland
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: edmund.reinhardt@ca.ibm.com [mailto:edmund.reinhardt@ca.ibm.com]
> > > Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 10:16 AM
> > > To: CODE400-L@midrange.com
> > > Subject: Re: CODE400 4 Free
> > >
> > > Sorry Martin,
> > >
> > > I've probably already said more than the lawyers would allow me ;-)  I
> can
> > > say that from the feedback we have been getting, we think that
> developers
> > > want 
> mething like "Visual Studio" for AS/400.  One integrated package of
> > > tools with one price.  No more complexities of ordering piece parts
> here
> > > and there and learning the quirks of each one.  That is the strategy
> we are
> > > actively pursuing this very minute.
> > >
> > > I am afraid that I cannot get any more specific than that.  If you
> think
> > > this is right or wrong, we would be happy to hear from you.
> > --
> > Thank You.
> > 
> > Regards
> > 
> > Dave Mahadevan.. mailto:mahadevan@fuse.net
> 
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