Thanks Larry - good to know.

So I'm guessing that we've had at most 3 connected at one time. We have the "authorized user" licenses - a couple new guys will download the trial, as we order more seats.


On 4/18/2014 3:16 PM, DrFranken wrote:

Yes that is the one to which I refer. It really is floating to the
organization rather than the 'server'. As implemented though it often
works out to server but not required to be.

We HAVE seen the limit hit when both developers stay logged on at the
office and then try to use it at home and get raspberries from the system.

- Larry "DrFranken" Bolhuis

On 4/18/2014 3:04 PM, Vernon Hamberg wrote:

Larry, I assume you are talking about the floating user license? For
sharing RDi? By the description online, that doesn't exactly sound like
a license to the server - are you talking about concurrent users? - THAT
option is not listed on the RDi purchase page.

I haven't tried to push the limits, but, frankly, I don't know that the
system is really enforcing any of this. I do see a reduction in seats of
ADTS on at least one of our systems in WRKLICINF. We paid for 4 seats of
RDi (originally RDp when purchased), so maybe only a max of 3 have
connected at one time. It really doesn't make sense, as to enforcement.

Just a most curious developer!

On 4/18/2014 1:34 PM, DrFranken wrote:
Paul you are doubly wrong! (I tried for 3 to strike you out but..)

First you can't really share air-nailers all that well. If a guy is
attaching the top plate of a wall at one end of the studs he needs one
and another guy is putting the bottom plate on the other end it doesn't
work very well to share. You might as well have one guy doing both ends.
Plus then there is the variety of the things, roofing nails, framing
nails, finish nails etc.

Second you CAN share RDi! They have had an option for quite a while now
to license to the server. WHen you connect if a license is available you
get it and use it. So you can load the software at home, on your laptop,
on your work desktop etc and use it everywhere or you can purchase 5
licenses shared across say 8 developers. It mostly depends on how much
time each needs to be in the tool.

OK Weak three, you can use RDi for Cobol AND RPG. :-)

- Larry "DrFranken" Bolhuis

On 4/18/2014 2:25 PM, Paul Fenstermacher wrote:

But Larry, if the builder has 1 carpenter he only has to buy 1 air-nailer and if necessary it can be shared with other carpenters. Companies that have 500 developers find it more difficult to purchase 500 RDi licenses and they can't be shared.

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From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of DrFranken
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 11:30 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: SEU %scanRpl produces RNF0604 error when prompting, but compiles without error

IBM Decided to spend their money on one tool that has vastly more capability and more opportunity for enhancement. It's also based on tools used for other languages so it's familiar to many many more developers than SEU.

Were IBM to continue to maintain both tools there would be either fewer features in RDi or both it and SEU would be more expensive.

And there is no force. You can continue to utilize SEU for your editing you will simply find that you are becoming less and less efficient while with RDi you become more and more efficient.

IBM Quit manufacturing AS/400s and then iSeries and then System i. They didn't do so to force you to buy a Power System they did so because Power Systems are far superior in capability and performance. You can still run an AS/400 (and some DO!) but you'll spend much more money for the same performance.

As to the cost, that argument doesn't hold water for me. It's like a builder who refuses to purchase an air-nailer for his carpenter because it's expensive and the hammer he already owns still works.

- Larry "DrFranken" Bolhuis

On 4/18/2014 12:00 AM, Alan Campin wrote:

No, IBM decided to force people to buy RDi by stopping to update SEU
with new releases. I am using at work great but you have to buy and a
lot companies won't buy.
On Apr 17, 2014 9:49 PM, "John Yeung" <gallium.arsenide@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 11:16 PM, DrFranken <midrange@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
There was a time when IBM created FSEDIT. It was warmly welcomed
because it was such an improvement over the SEU of the time.

Now we get awesome tools like RDi and we bash them? I don't get it.
I don't see anyone actually bashing RDi, so I guess you mean folks
are bashing IBM. Well, perhaps the situation is different now, but I
don't know. Was FSEDIT expensive and SEU out of date with respect to
the compiler?


On 4/17/2014 10:49 PM, Alan Campin wrote:

SEU frozen at v6r1. Anything above that level will not work. Stinks
big time. Have to get RDI if you want syntax checking.
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