Re: Installing WAS 8.5 Express Supplements -- WEB400

I do have a Passport Advantage account. I pre-downloaded the software and created a repository (using the Windows version of IBM Packaging Utility) because I didn't want it downloading during the install.

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From: web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jack Kingsley
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 1:49 PM
To: Web Enabling the IBM i (AS/400 and iSeries)
Subject: Re: [WEB400] Installing WAS 8.5 Express Supplements

Do you have a passport advantage account, you should be able to install it directly from there to. You have installation manger installed, correct.

On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Dean, Robert <rdean@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Yes, that's the name.

I like that tool a lot. My only complaint is that I can't install WAS
on IBM i using console mode. It has to be done using a full command
line, or a response file. :-(

-----Original Message-----
From: web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Jack Kingsley
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 1:13 PM
To: Web Enabling the IBM i (AS/400 and iSeries)
Subject: Re: [WEB400] Installing WAS 8.5 Express Supplements

Maybe need to research using IMCL?/ Think that is what it was called.

On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 1:06 PM, Jim Oberholtzer <
midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

That's really close Jack, thank you, however they changed the
installation procedures for WAS 8.5, and the documentation there is
for 6.1.

Jim Oberholtzer
Chief Technical Architect
Agile Technology Architects

On 1/30/2013 11:47 AM, Jack Kingsley wrote:

This looks like it might be it:

http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/wasinfo/v6r1/index.jsp?topic=%2Fcom.
ibm.websphere.nd.iseries.doc%2Finfo%2Fiseriesnd%2Fae%2Ftins_is_webpl
ug
ins_silent.html

On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 12:38 PM, Jack
Kingsley<iseriesflorida@xxxxxxxxx
wrote:

Jim, are these the plugins.

On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Dean,
Robert<rdean@xxxxxxxxxxxx>

wrote:

It depends on your point of view. The PTF process just
complicates Installation Manager. If you manage it on its
own, it's even

simpler in

some regards than licpgm/PTF. Installing the product and
all

available

fixes can be done in one pass, and applying applicable fixes
is

similarly

straightforward.

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From:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:

web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]

On Behalf Of Jim Oberholtzer
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 11:36 AM
To: Web Enabling the IBM i (AS/400 and iSeries)
Subject: Re: [WEB400] Installing WAS 8.5 Express Supplements

Aaahhh I wish for the simplicity of an LPP and options, but
alas,

no they

are not features in the sense that they show up on the
display

licensed

program list. Base WAS does yes, but not the supplemental

products.

I am so glad Zend decided to use the Licensed Program and
PTF

route to

load and update Zend Server. It's so much easier than WAS.

Yes WAS uses a PTF, but then you have to update the
installation

manager,

then run the script to apply all the changes to the server
while it's down. That can take "some minutes" as Larry likes
to

say.

That process is nearly as awful as the original installation.
If

you get

an error which happens quite often, you have to be a Java
Guru to

figure

out what went wrong and correct it. Usually it's a
misspelling of

one of

the options, or a missed dash or something like that, but
it's a

bit of a

task to find it.

Jim Oberholtzer
Chief Technical Architect
Agile Technology Architects

On 1/30/2013 9:59 AM, Jack Kingsley wrote:

> Do you have more info than just supplemental products??
Would

these

> be features of 5733W80 5733W85 then??
>
> On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Jim Oberholtzer<
> midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>

>> > Jack,
>> >
>> > Yes that is the instruction sheet for the original

install. I'll

>> > argue, now from experience, that they leave quite
a bit

out but it

>> > works for the base installation. What I'm after
is the >> > instructions on how to do the supplemental
products

that are on the

second DVD.

>> >
>> > Jim Oberholtzer
>> > Chief Technical Architect
>> > Agile Technology Architects
>> >
>> >
>> > On 1/30/2013 9:42 AM, Jack Kingsley wrote:

>>> > > Maybe this is it:
>>> > >
>>> > >

>> >
>> >

http://www-912.ibm.com/s_dir/SLKBase.nsf/1ac66549a21402188625680b00

>> >
02037e/02eae6f58c4cc0e886257a3a0042647c?OpenDocument

>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Jack
>>> > Kingsley<iseriesflorida@xxxxxxxxx
>>> > >wrote:
>>> > >

>>>>> > >> > Jim, are you talking WAS 8.5

Express,

I did something

like this a

>> > while

>>>>> > >> > back, I know you have to use

installation manager and

QSH/PASE I

>> > believe.

>>>>> > >> >
>>>>> > >> >
>>>>> > >> > On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 3:11 PM, Jim

Oberholtzer<

>>>>> > >> > midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

wrote:

>>>>> > >> >

>>>>>>> > >>> >> Cross posted on Midrange-L and

Web400.

>>>>>>> > >>> >>
>>>>>>> > >>> >> Does anyone have the

installation instructions for

loading the WAS

>> > 8.5

>>>>>>> > >>> >> Express Supplements? Since

IBM

does not seem to

have any real

>>>>>>> > >>> >> installation documentation

that

I can find, and I'm

not the least

>> > bit

>>>>>>> > >>> >> clairvoyant, I'd appreciate

some guidance.

>>>>>>> > >>> >>
>>>>>>> > >>> >> --
>>>>>>> > >>> >> Jim Oberholtzer
>>>>>>> > >>> >> Chief Technical Architect
>>>>>>> > >>> >> Agile Technology Architects
>>>>>>> > >>> >>
>>>>>>> > >>> >> --

>> > --

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