Re: Installing WAS 8.5 Express Supplements

[Jim Oberholtzer <midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

That's really close Jack, thank you, however they changed the 
installation procedures for WAS 8.5, and the documentation there is for 
6.1.

Jim Oberholtzer
Chief Technical Architect
Agile Technology Architects


On 1/30/2013 11:47 AM, Jack Kingsley wrote:
> This looks like it might be it:
>
> http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/wasinfo/v6r1/index.jsp?topic=%2Fcom.ibm.websphere.nd.iseries.doc%2Finfo%2Fiseriesnd%2Fae%2Ftins_is_webplugins_silent.html
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 12:38 PM, Jack Kingsley<iseriesflorida@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>
> > >  Jim, are these the plugins.
> > >
> > >
> > >  On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Dean, Robert<rdean@xxxxxxxxxxxx>  wrote:
> > >
> > > >>  It depends on your point of view.  The PTF process just complicates
> > > >>  Installation Manager.  If you manage it on its own, it's even simpler in
> > > >>  some regards than licpgm/PTF.  Installing the product and all available
> > > >>  fixes can be done in one pass, and applying applicable fixes is similarly
> > > >>  straightforward.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>  -----Original Message-----
> > > >>  From:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx  [mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > >>  On Behalf Of Jim Oberholtzer
> > > >>  Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 11:36 AM
> > > >>  To: Web Enabling the IBM i (AS/400 and iSeries)
> > > >>  Subject: Re: [WEB400] Installing WAS 8.5 Express Supplements
> > > >>
> > > >>  Aaahhh I wish for the simplicity of an LPP and options, but alas, no they
> > > >>  are not features in the sense that they show up on the display licensed
> > > >>  program list.  Base WAS does yes, but not the supplemental products.
> > > >>
> > > >>  I am so glad Zend decided to use the Licensed Program and PTF route to
> > > >>  load and update Zend Server.  It's so much easier than WAS.
> > > >>
> > > >>  Yes WAS uses a PTF, but then you have to update the installation manager,
> > > >>  then run the script to apply all the changes to the server
> > > >>  while it's down.  That can take "some minutes" as Larry likes to say.
> > > >>  That process is nearly as awful as the original installation.  If you get
> > > >>  an error which happens quite often, you have to be a Java Guru to figure
> > > >>  out what went wrong and correct it.  Usually it's a misspelling of one of
> > > >>  the options, or a missed dash or something like that, but it's a bit of a
> > > >>  task to find it.
> > > >>
> > > >>  Jim Oberholtzer
> > > >>  Chief Technical Architect
> > > >>  Agile Technology Architects
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>  On 1/30/2013 9:59 AM, Jack Kingsley wrote:
> > > > >>  >  Do you have more info than just supplemental products??  Would these
> > > > >>  >  be features of 5733W80 5733W85 then??
> > > > >>  >
> > > > >>  >  On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Jim Oberholtzer<
> > > > >>  >  midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>   wrote:
> > > > >>  >
> > > > > > >>  >>  >    Jack,
> > > > > > >>  >>  >
> > > > > > >>  >>  >    Yes that is the instruction sheet for the original install.  I'll
> > > > > > >>  >>  >  argue,  now from experience, that they leave quite a bit out but it
> > > > > > >>  >>  >  works for  the base installation.  What I'm after is the
> > > > > > >>  >>  >  instructions on how to do  the supplemental products that are on the
> > > >>  second DVD.
> > > > > > >>  >>  >
> > > > > > >>  >>  >    Jim Oberholtzer
> > > > > > >>  >>  >    Chief Technical Architect
> > > > > > >>  >>  >    Agile Technology Architects
> > > > > > >>  >>  >
> > > > > > >>  >>  >
> > > > > > >>  >>  >    On 1/30/2013 9:42 AM, Jack Kingsley wrote:
> > > > > > > >>  >>>  >    >   Maybe this is it:
> > > > > > > >>  >>>  >    >
> > > > > > > >>  >>>  >    >
> > > > > > >>  >>  >
> > > > > > >>  >>  >  http://www-912.ibm.com/s_dir/SLKBase.nsf/1ac66549a21402188625680b00
> > > > > > >>  >>  >  02037e/02eae6f58c4cc0e886257a3a0042647c?OpenDocument
> > > > > > > >>  >>>  >    >
> > > > > > > >>  >>>  >    >
> > > > > > > >>  >>>  >    >
> > > > > > > >>  >>>  >    >   On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Jack
> > > > > > > >>  >>>  >  Kingsley<iseriesflorida@xxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > >>  >>>  >    >wrote:
> > > > > > > >>  >>>  >    >
> > > > > > > > > >>  >>>>>  >    >>   >     Jim, are you talking WAS 8.5 Express, I did something
> > > >>  like this a
> > > > > > >>  >>  >    while
> > > > > > > > > >>  >>>>>  >    >>   >     back, I know you have to use installation manager and
> > > >>  QSH/PASE I
> > > > > > >>  >>  >    believe.
> > > > > > > > > >>  >>>>>  >    >>   >
> > > > > > > > > >>  >>>>>  >    >>   >
> > > > > > > > > >>  >>>>>  >    >>   >     On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 3:11 PM, Jim Oberholtzer<
> > > > > > > > > >>  >>>>>  >    >>   >     midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>    wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >>  >>>>>  >    >>   >
> > > > > > > > > > > >>  >>>>>>>  >    >>>   >>     Cross posted on Midrange-L and Web400.
> > > > > > > > > > > >>  >>>>>>>  >    >>>   >>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>  >>>>>>>  >    >>>   >>     Does anyone have the installation instructions for
> > > >>  loading the WAS
> > > > > > >>  >>  >    8.5
> > > > > > > > > > > >>  >>>>>>>  >    >>>   >>     Express Supplements?  Since IBM does not seem to
> > > >>  have any real
> > > > > > > > > > > >>  >>>>>>>  >    >>>   >>     installation documentation that I can find, and I'm
> > > >>  not the least
> > > > > > >>  >>  >    bit
> > > > > > > > > > > >>  >>>>>>>  >    >>>   >>     clairvoyant, I'd appreciate some guidance.
> > > > > > > > > > > >>  >>>>>>>  >    >>>   >>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>  >>>>>>>  >    >>>   >>     --
> > > > > > > > > > > >>  >>>>>>>  >    >>>   >>     Jim Oberholtzer
> > > > > > > > > > > >>  >>>>>>>  >    >>>   >>     Chief Technical Architect
> > > > > > > > > > > >>  >>>>>>>  >    >>>   >>     Agile Technology Architects
> > > > > > > > > > > >>  >>>>>>>  >    >>>   >>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>  >>>>>>>  >    >>>   >>     --
> > > > > > >>  >>  >    --