Re: Installing WAS 8.5 Express Supplements

Maybe need to research using IMCL?/ Think that is what it was called.

On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 1:06 PM, Jim Oberholtzer<
midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> That's really close Jack, thank you, however they changed the
> installation procedures for WAS 8.5, and the documentation there is for
> 6.1.
>
> Jim Oberholtzer
> Chief Technical Architect
> Agile Technology Architects
>
>
> On 1/30/2013 11:47 AM, Jack Kingsley wrote:

> > This looks like it might be it:
> >
> >

> http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/wasinfo/v6r1/index.jsp?topic=%2Fcom.ibm.websphere.nd.iseries.doc%2Finfo%2Fiseriesnd%2Fae%2Ftins_is_webplugins_silent.html

> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 12:38 PM, Jack Kingsley<iseriesflorida@xxxxxxxxx
> >wrote:
> >

> >> > Jim, are these the plugins.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Dean, Robert<rdean@xxxxxxxxxxxx>

> wrote:

> >> >

> >>> >> It depends on your point of view. The PTF process just complicates
> >>> >> Installation Manager. If you manage it on its own, it's even

> simpler in

> >>> >> some regards than licpgm/PTF. Installing the product and all

> available

> >>> >> fixes can be done in one pass, and applying applicable fixes is

> similarly

> >>> >> straightforward.
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> -----Original Message-----
> >>> >> From:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:

> web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]

> >>> >> On Behalf Of Jim Oberholtzer
> >>> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 11:36 AM
> >>> >> To: Web Enabling the IBM i (AS/400 and iSeries)
> >>> >> Subject: Re: [WEB400] Installing WAS 8.5 Express Supplements
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Aaahhh I wish for the simplicity of an LPP and options, but alas,

> no they

> >>> >> are not features in the sense that they show up on the display

> licensed

> >>> >> program list. Base WAS does yes, but not the supplemental

> products.

> >>> >>
> >>> >> I am so glad Zend decided to use the Licensed Program and PTF

> route to

> >>> >> load and update Zend Server. It's so much easier than WAS.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Yes WAS uses a PTF, but then you have to update the installation

> manager,

> >>> >> then run the script to apply all the changes to the server
> >>> >> while it's down. That can take "some minutes" as Larry likes to

> say.

> >>> >> That process is nearly as awful as the original installation. If

> you get

> >>> >> an error which happens quite often, you have to be a Java Guru to

> figure

> >>> >> out what went wrong and correct it. Usually it's a misspelling of

> one of

> >>> >> the options, or a missed dash or something like that, but it's a

> bit of a

> >>> >> task to find it.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Jim Oberholtzer
> >>> >> Chief Technical Architect
> >>> >> Agile Technology Architects
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> On 1/30/2013 9:59 AM, Jack Kingsley wrote:

> >>>> >> > Do you have more info than just supplemental products?? Would

> these

> >>>> >> > be features of 5733W80 5733W85 then??
> >>>> >> >
> >>>> >> > On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Jim Oberholtzer<
> >>>> >> > midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>> >> >

> >>>>>> >> >> > Jack,
> >>>>>> >> >> >
> >>>>>> >> >> > Yes that is the instruction sheet for the original

> install. I'll

> >>>>>> >> >> > argue, now from experience, that they leave quite a bit

> out but it

> >>>>>> >> >> > works for the base installation. What I'm after is the
> >>>>>> >> >> > instructions on how to do the supplemental products

> that are on the

> >>> >> second DVD.

> >>>>>> >> >> >
> >>>>>> >> >> > Jim Oberholtzer
> >>>>>> >> >> > Chief Technical Architect
> >>>>>> >> >> > Agile Technology Architects
> >>>>>> >> >> >
> >>>>>> >> >> >
> >>>>>> >> >> > On 1/30/2013 9:42 AM, Jack Kingsley wrote:

> >>>>>>> >> >>> > > Maybe this is it:
> >>>>>>> >> >>> > >
> >>>>>>> >> >>> > >

> >>>>>> >> >> >
> >>>>>> >> >> >

> http://www-912.ibm.com/s_dir/SLKBase.nsf/1ac66549a21402188625680b00

> >>>>>> >> >> > 02037e/02eae6f58c4cc0e886257a3a0042647c?OpenDocument

> >>>>>>> >> >>> > >
> >>>>>>> >> >>> > >
> >>>>>>> >> >>> > >
> >>>>>>> >> >>> > > On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Jack
> >>>>>>> >> >>> > Kingsley<iseriesflorida@xxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>>> >> >>> > >wrote:
> >>>>>>> >> >>> > >

> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>> > >> > Jim, are you talking WAS 8.5 Express,

> I did something

> >>> >> like this a

> >>>>>> >> >> > while

> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>> > >> > back, I know you have to use

> installation manager and

> >>> >> QSH/PASE I

> >>>>>> >> >> > believe.

> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>> > >> >
> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>> > >> >
> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>> > >> > On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 3:11 PM, Jim

> Oberholtzer<

> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>> > >> > midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

> wrote:

> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>> > >> >

> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> > >>> >> Cross posted on Midrange-L and

> Web400.

> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> > >>> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> > >>> >> Does anyone have the

> installation instructions for

> >>> >> loading the WAS

> >>>>>> >> >> > 8.5

> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> > >>> >> Express Supplements? Since IBM

> does not seem to

> >>> >> have any real

> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> > >>> >> installation documentation that

> I can find, and I'm

> >>> >> not the least

> >>>>>> >> >> > bit

> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> > >>> >> clairvoyant, I'd appreciate

> some guidance.

> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> > >>> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> > >>> >> --
> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> > >>> >> Jim Oberholtzer
> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> > >>> >> Chief Technical Architect
> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> > >>> >> Agile Technology Architects
> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> > >>> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> > >>> >> --

> >>>>>> >> >> > --

> --