Re: Installing WAS 8.5 Express Supplements

It depends on your point of view. The PTF process just complicates Installation Manager. If you manage it on its own, it's even simpler in some regards than licpgm/PTF. Installing the product and all available fixes can be done in one pass, and applying applicable fixes is similarly straightforward.


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From: web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Oberholtzer
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 11:36 AM
To: Web Enabling the IBM i (AS/400 and iSeries)
Subject: Re: [WEB400] Installing WAS 8.5 Express Supplements

Aaahhh I wish for the simplicity of an LPP and options, but alas, no they are not features in the sense that they show up on the display licensed program list. Base WAS does yes, but not the supplemental products.

I am so glad Zend decided to use the Licensed Program and PTF route to load and update Zend Server. It's so much easier than WAS.

Yes WAS uses a PTF, but then you have to update the installation manager, then run the script to apply all the changes to the server
while it's down. That can take "some minutes" as Larry likes to say.
That process is nearly as awful as the original installation. If you get an error which happens quite often, you have to be a Java Guru to figure out what went wrong and correct it. Usually it's a misspelling of one of the options, or a missed dash or something like that, but it's a bit of a task to find it.

Jim Oberholtzer
Chief Technical Architect
Agile Technology Architects


On 1/30/2013 9:59 AM, Jack Kingsley wrote:

Do you have more info than just supplemental products?? Would these
be features of 5733W80 5733W85 then??

On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Jim Oberholtzer<
midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Jack,

Yes that is the instruction sheet for the original install. I'll
argue, now from experience, that they leave quite a bit out but it
works for the base installation. What I'm after is the
instructions on how to do the supplemental products that are on the second DVD.

Jim Oberholtzer
Chief Technical Architect
Agile Technology Architects


On 1/30/2013 9:42 AM, Jack Kingsley wrote:

> Maybe this is it:
>
>

http://www-912.ibm.com/s_dir/SLKBase.nsf/1ac66549a21402188625680b00
02037e/02eae6f58c4cc0e886257a3a0042647c?OpenDocument

>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Jack
Kingsley<iseriesflorida@xxxxxxxxx
>wrote:
>

>> > Jim, are you talking WAS 8.5 Express, I did something like this a

while

>> > back, I know you have to use installation manager and QSH/PASE I

believe.

>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 3:11 PM, Jim Oberholtzer<
>> > midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >

>>> >> Cross posted on Midrange-L and Web400.
>>> >>
>>> >> Does anyone have the installation instructions for loading the WAS

8.5

>>> >> Express Supplements? Since IBM does not seem to have any real
>>> >> installation documentation that I can find, and I'm not the least

bit

>>> >> clairvoyant, I'd appreciate some guidance.
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> Jim Oberholtzer
>>> >> Chief Technical Architect
>>> >> Agile Technology Architects
>>> >>
>>> >> --

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