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Jeff,

It works perfect in RDP 8.0.3 in both "Design Screens" & "Design Records". <Joy Joy>

At the time I tried it, I was using RDP 8.5, the "FAULTY/CRAPPY" release. There it did NOT work! Quality Control did NOT test that version properly.

But works perfectly, no problems at all in RDP 8.0.3. <Big Smile>

I guess I made the mistake of trying to use RDP 8.5 again... And yes, I have all the updates available for that @#$!@#$ crappy Release. I guess I should really delete that @#$!#@$!@# Version off my PC. Because every time I use it, it DRIVES ME NUTS! <rant rant>


-Ken Killian-


-----Original Message-----
From: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jeff Young
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 12:15 PM
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client for System i & iSeries
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] DDS Designer Window subfile

Ken,
Are you using the Design Screens function or the Design Records?
If using Design Records, you will not see any records other than the single record you are working on.


On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Ken Killian <kkillian@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Strange!

I happen to be using RDP 8.5, and it DOES NOT work, as I mentioned...

Went back to RDP 8.0.3, and it worked perfectly fine!!!

Have I ever mentioned what a @#$!@#$! Crappy release RDP 8.5 was?!?!?
<Rant Rant>

Sadly, that was the release I show a lot of the newbie, once again, no
wonder they said this is NOT Stable. Worked in Previous Release, but
NOT this Release!

How I wish they would get me RDI 9.0

-Ken Killian-


-----Original Message-----
From: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Vernon Hamberg
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 11:23 AM
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client
for System i & iSeries
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] DDS Designer Window subfile

Ken

I just took your sample - I'm using 9.0.0.1 - and opened a new DSPF
member. Then I pasted it into the source tab. Went to the design tab,
then clicked on SUBFILE - the window frame was there, along with the
other bits from the CONTRL format.

The subfile is in green, the control is in gray.

I do have the "Draw records transparent" button pressed.

Might be a version difference - or be sure in your RDP to have pressed
that button before showing things off.

HTH
Vern

On 10/10/2013 8:42 AM, Ken Killian wrote:
Even when I pick "Design Screens" and add the Subfile/Control formats.
The subfile is NOT shown inside the Window! WTF?!?!? I will have to
be careful NOT to show this in my presentation! <LOL>

Back to Stable SDA, for designing this window subfile. At least it
works
there!

I wish there was a simple way to toggle between opening in DDS
Designer
& LPEX. Yes, I know about the File association to say open up with the
DDS Designer. But, that is global.
Window>Preferences>General>Editors>File Associations> I have DSPF
Window>Preferences>General>Editors>to
default to open with Screen Designer (DEFAULT).
Yeah, I click on the source table often for quick edits. But
sometimes,
it is nice to edit with good old LPEX.


-Ken Killian-

-----Original Message-----
From: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tarr, Kenneth
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 9:17 AM
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio
Client for System i & iSeries
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] DDS Designer Window subfile

I have also experienced this behavior...

There are three tabs at the bottom of the design window, "Design",
"Source" and "Preview". Design is the area you actually work on. As
noted below, you can only see one item at a time, so you can only look
at the Subfile Control or the Subfile record. Source allows you to
look at the source. You can work on edit changes here as well.
Preview is where you can view the screens together, so here you should
be able to view both the Subfile Control and Subfile records together.
Only difference is that you can't make any edit changes. You would
have to go back to the Design tab to do that.

For me the problem is that you have to go back and forth between the
two
to make sure you're not overlapping any fields. If I remember, CODE
Designer was much more flexible on this. So in my view, I believe
there still is some desired functionality that was in CODE Designer
that's not in DDS Designer. And if I recall right, CODE Designer was
intuitive enough to know when you placed something on the screen as to
which one it belonged to. It also did a better job of edit checking
on the fly; that is, knowing if a name was already in use.

I'm not totally knocking DDS Designer; it does have some features
unique
to itself that makes it easier to work on some scenarios. But I
believe it sets back development a bit when some of the nice features
of CODE Designer didn't make their way to this one.

...and unfortunately, no one here has a copy of CODE anymore...yet
it's
funny to note RDi still shows it in the "Open with" list...

-----Original Message-----
From: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dave Shaw
Sent: October 10, 2013 08:01 AM
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio
Client for System i & iSeries
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] DDS Designer Window subfile

Ken,

I see what you mean - on 9.0.0.1, Design Screens only shows either
the
CONTROL or the SUBFILE record, but not both. I checked it in CODE
Designer (yep, still got the relic loaded), and it works as expected.


Dave Shaw


________________________________
From: Ken Killian <kkillian@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio
Client for System i & iSeries <wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 8:35 AM
Subject: [WDSCI-L] DDS Designer Window subfile


Hi,

Using SDA for a subfile, window. I see the subfile inside the window!
<cool>

But, using the DDS Designer, the subfile is NOT placed in the window!
Yikes!

Am I missing something?

Here is extremely simple code to verify this:

A DSPSIZ(24 80 *NORMAL)
A R SUBFILE SFL
A OPT 1A O 3 2
A TEXT 20A O 3 5
A R CONTROL SFLCTL(SUBFILE)
A SFLDSP
A SFLSIZ( 24)
A SFLPAG(0005)
A WINDOW(2 2 15 30)
A 2 1'opt'
A 2 6'text'

Pardon this dumb down example. But it displays properly inside SDA.
Inside the DDS Designer the subfile is NOT shown in a window! What is
the point of having a Visual Designer, when SDA works. But Ration
Developer cannot display window!

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