Re: DDS Designer Window subfile

Strange!

I happen to be using RDP 8.5, and it DOES NOT work, as I mentioned...

Went back to RDP 8.0.3, and it worked perfectly fine!!!

Have I ever mentioned what a @#$!@#$! Crappy release RDP 8.5 was?!?!?
<Rant Rant>

Sadly, that was the release I show a lot of the newbie, once again, no
wonder they said this is NOT Stable. Worked in Previous Release, but NOT
this Release!

How I wish they would get me RDI 9.0

-Ken Killian-


-----Original Message-----
From: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Vernon Hamberg
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 11:23 AM
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client for
System i & iSeries
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] DDS Designer Window subfile

Ken

I just took your sample - I'm using 9.0.0.1 - and opened a new DSPF
member. Then I pasted it into the source tab. Went to the design tab, then
clicked on SUBFILE - the window frame was there, along with the other bits
from the CONTRL format.

The subfile is in green, the control is in gray.

I do have the "Draw records transparent" button pressed.

Might be a version difference - or be sure in your RDP to have pressed
that button before showing things off.

HTH
Vern

On 10/10/2013 8:42 AM, Ken Killian wrote:

Even when I pick "Design Screens" and add the Subfile/Control formats.
The subfile is NOT shown inside the Window! WTF?!?!? I will have to be
careful NOT to show this in my presentation! <LOL>

Back to Stable SDA, for designing this window subfile. At least it works

there!

I wish there was a simple way to toggle between opening in DDS Designer

& LPEX. Yes, I know about the File association to say open up with the DDS
Designer. But, that is global.

Window>Preferences>General>Editors>File Associations> I have DSPF to

default to open with Screen Designer (DEFAULT).

Yeah, I click on the source table often for quick edits. But sometimes,

it is nice to edit with good old LPEX.

-Ken Killian-

-----Original Message-----
From: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tarr, Kenneth
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 9:17 AM
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client
for System i & iSeries
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] DDS Designer Window subfile

I have also experienced this behavior...

There are three tabs at the bottom of the design window, "Design",

"Source" and "Preview". Design is the area you actually work on. As noted
below, you can only see one item at a time, so you can only look at the
Subfile Control or the Subfile record. Source allows you to look at the
source. You can work on edit changes here as well. Preview is where you
can view the screens together, so here you should be able to view both the
Subfile Control and Subfile records together. Only difference is that you
can't make any edit changes. You would have to go back to the Design tab
to do that.

For me the problem is that you have to go back and forth between the two

to make sure you're not overlapping any fields. If I remember, CODE
Designer was much more flexible on this. So in my view, I believe there
still is some desired functionality that was in CODE Designer that's not in
DDS Designer. And if I recall right, CODE Designer was intuitive enough to
know when you placed something on the screen as to which one it belonged
to. It also did a better job of edit checking on the fly; that is, knowing
if a name was already in use.

I'm not totally knocking DDS Designer; it does have some features unique

to itself that makes it easier to work on some scenarios. But I believe it
sets back development a bit when some of the nice features of CODE Designer
didn't make their way to this one.

...and unfortunately, no one here has a copy of CODE anymore...yet it's

funny to note RDi still shows it in the "Open with" list...

-----Original Message-----
From: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dave Shaw
Sent: October 10, 2013 08:01 AM
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client
for System i & iSeries
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] DDS Designer Window subfile

Ken,

I see what you mean - on 9.0.0.1, Design Screens only shows either the

CONTROL or the SUBFILE record, but not both. I checked it in CODE Designer
(yep, still got the relic loaded), and it works as expected.

Dave Shaw


________________________________
From: Ken Killian <kkillian@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client
for System i & iSeries <wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 8:35 AM
Subject: [WDSCI-L] DDS Designer Window subfile


Hi,

Using SDA for a subfile, window. I see the subfile inside the window!
<cool>

But, using the DDS Designer, the subfile is NOT placed in the window!

Yikes!

Am I missing something?

Here is extremely simple code to verify this:

A DSPSIZ(24 80 *NORMAL)
A R SUBFILE SFL
A OPT 1A O 3 2
A TEXT 20A O 3 5
A R CONTROL SFLCTL(SUBFILE)
A SFLDSP
A SFLSIZ( 24)
A SFLPAG(0005)
A WINDOW(2 2 15 30)
A 2 1'opt'
A 2 6'text'

Pardon this dumb down example. But it displays properly inside SDA.

Inside the DDS Designer the subfile is NOT shown in a window! What is the
point of having a Visual Designer, when SDA works. But Ration Developer
cannot display window!

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