Which BIF?
Regards,
Edmund (E.H.) Reinhardt
COBOL IDE on AIX, DDS, WebFacing, System i Application Development,
Rational Developer for Power
2D barcode Phone: 1-905-413-3125 | Phone: 1-905-854-6195 IBM
- encoded E-mail: edmund.reinhardt@xxxxxxxxxx
with AIX COBOL: 8200 Warden Ave
contact www.youtube.com/user/IBMRational#g/c/62DF24D5BCD43501 Markham, ON L6G 1C7
information "In every thing give thanks: for this is the will of Canada
God in Christ Jesus concerning you." - 1
Thessalonians 5:18
From: Ken Killian <kkillian@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio
Client for System i & iSeries" <wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Date: 10/10/2013 12:06 PM
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] DDS Designer Window subfile
Sent by: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
I am currently using RDP 8.5, because the outline view does NOT blow up
when I do NOT hard code the program name in the "PI" Procedure
interface....
********** Hard-Coded Program-Name <Yuck!>****************
D MYPROGRAM PR
D MyParm_ LIKE(MyParm)
D MYPROGRAM PI
D MyParm 10
*********** No Hard-Coded name like *ENTRY *****************
D PI
D MyParm 10
RDP 8.0.3 just closes immediately, no Error, no message. When I try to
build out line view. With no outline, of course I get no code-assist for
fields... <BigFrown>
So, trying to use "Code-Assist" for a %BIF does NOT work in the newer RDP
8.5! WTF. But does work RDP 8.0.3, Why would a function work in one
release, but not another?!?!?!
Yes, I have already begged my company to purchase RDI 9.0, but they said no
until maybe 2nd quarter of 2014. Regardless, our contract I guess has
already expired.
It is beyond me, why functionality that worked in all previous releases,
would not work in another NEWER release. How was this release tested? Was
it ever tested?
Okay, I am beating a dead-horse here, that I will admit... <rant rant>
I still have a sour taste in my mouth from this Doomed/Faulty Release RDP
8.5. I guess I assume no fix packs for RDP 8.5. They release Fix-packs for
the OS for Power-Systems. And support back to the previous 2-releases. But,
I guess that does NOT apply to Rational Developer.
-Ken Killian-
-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Killian
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 11:39 AM
To: 'Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client for
System i & iSeries'
Subject: RE: [WDSCI-L] DDS Designer Window subfile
Strange!
I happen to be using RDP 8.5, and it DOES NOT work, as I mentioned...
Went back to RDP 8.0.3, and it worked perfectly fine!!!
Have I ever mentioned what a @#$!@#$! Crappy release RDP 8.5 was?!?!? <Rant
Rant>
Sadly, that was the release I show a lot of the newbie, once again, no
wonder they said this is NOT Stable. Worked in Previous Release, but NOT
this Release!
How I wish they would get me RDI 9.0
-Ken Killian-
-----Original Message-----
From: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Vernon Hamberg
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 11:23 AM
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client for
System i & iSeries
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] DDS Designer Window subfile
Ken
I just took your sample - I'm using 9.0.0.1 - and opened a new DSPF member.
Then I pasted it into the source tab. Went to the design tab, then clicked
on SUBFILE - the window frame was there, along with the other bits from the
CONTRL format.
The subfile is in green, the control is in gray.
I do have the "Draw records transparent" button pressed.
Might be a version difference - or be sure in your RDP to have pressed that
button before showing things off.
HTH
Vern
On 10/10/2013 8:42 AM, Ken Killian wrote:
Even when I pick "Design Screens" and add the Subfile/Control formats.
The subfile is NOT shown inside the Window! WTF?!?!? I will have to be
careful NOT to show this in my presentation! <LOL>
Back to Stable SDA, for designing this window subfile. At least it works
there!
I wish there was a simple way to toggle between opening in DDS Designer &
LPEX. Yes, I know about the File association to say open up with the DDS
Designer. But, that is global.
Window>Preferences>General>Editors>File Associations> I have DSPF to
default to open with Screen Designer (DEFAULT).
Yeah, I click on the source table often for quick edits. But sometimes,
it is nice to edit with good old LPEX.
-Ken Killian-
-----Original Message-----
From: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tarr, Kenneth
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 9:17 AM
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client
for System i & iSeries
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] DDS Designer Window subfile
I have also experienced this behavior...
There are three tabs at the bottom of the design window, "Design",
"Source" and "Preview". Design is the area you actually work on. As noted
below, you can only see one item at a time, so you can only look at the
Subfile Control or the Subfile record. Source allows you to look at the
source. You can work on edit changes here as well. Preview is where you
can view the screens together, so here you should be able to view both the
Subfile Control and Subfile records together. Only difference is that you
can't make any edit changes. You would have to go back to the Design tab
to do that.
For me the problem is that you have to go back and forth between the two
to make sure you're not overlapping any fields. If I remember, CODE
Designer was much more flexible on this. So in my view, I believe there
still is some desired functionality that was in CODE Designer that's not in
DDS Designer. And if I recall right, CODE Designer was intuitive enough to
know when you placed something on the screen as to which one it belonged
to. It also did a better job of edit checking on the fly; that is, knowing
if a name was already in use.
I'm not totally knocking DDS Designer; it does have some features unique
to itself that makes it easier to work on some scenarios. But I believe it
sets back development a bit when some of the nice features of CODE Designer
didn't make their way to this one.
...and unfortunately, no one here has a copy of CODE anymore...yet it's
funny to note RDi still shows it in the "Open with" list...
-----Original Message-----
From: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dave Shaw
Sent: October 10, 2013 08:01 AM
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client
for System i & iSeries
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] DDS Designer Window subfile
Ken,
I see what you mean - on 9.0.0.1, Design Screens only shows either the
CONTROL or the SUBFILE record, but not both. I checked it in CODE Designer
(yep, still got the relic loaded), and it works as expected.
Dave Shaw
________________________________
From: Ken Killian <kkillian@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client
for System i & iSeries <wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 8:35 AM
Subject: [WDSCI-L] DDS Designer Window subfile
Hi,
Using SDA for a subfile, window. I see the subfile inside the window!
<cool>
But, using the DDS Designer, the subfile is NOT placed in the window!
Yikes!
Am I missing something?
Here is extremely simple code to verify this:
A DSPSIZ(24 80 *NORMAL)
A R SUBFILE SFL
A OPT 1A O 3 2
A TEXT 20A O 3 5
A R CONTROL SFLCTL(SUBFILE)
A SFLDSP
A SFLSIZ( 24)
A SFLPAG(0005)
A WINDOW(2 2 15 30)
A 2 1'opt'
A 2 6'text'
Pardon this dumb down example. But it displays properly inside SDA.
Inside the DDS Designer the subfile is NOT shown in a window! What is the
point of having a Visual Designer, when SDA works. But Ration Developer
cannot display window!
--
This is the Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio
Client for System i & iSeries (WDSCI-L) mailing list To post a message
email: WDSCI-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list
options,
visit:
http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/wdsci-l
or email: WDSCI-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at
http://archive.midrange.com/wdsci-l.
--
This is the Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio
Client for System i & iSeries (WDSCI-L) mailing list
To post a message email: WDSCI-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx
To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options,
visit:
http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/wdsci-l
or email: WDSCI-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives
at
http://archive.midrange.com/wdsci-l.
midrange.com
