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A good guess could be that modern IDE's are much too reliant on pointing
devices. Try using Eclipse for a day without a mouse...

It is a real pity that those who designed the shortcut keys in Eclipse did
not look into the experiences gained with e.g. WordStar where you could do
almost anything with very few keystrokes (which were quite consistent too)
most of which were easily reachable from the home row. Now we are beginning
to see Ctrl-2, Ctrl-3 and Shift-Alt-X as the start of multi-key sequences
simply because all the simple ones were taken. How frequently do people use
Ctrl-N anyway?

Glad I have a robust Logitech mouse :)

-----Original Message-----
From: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Ken Killian
Sent: 25. juni 2013 18:03
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client for
System i & iSeries
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] RDi learning curve (was: RDi Lite?)

I came from a background of using IDE. So overall it isn't a problem for
me...

But some of the typical things I get:
How do I open a member?
How come some many windows (views)
Why so many shortcuts keys? How do you remember them all?
Why can't I just cut & paste like SEU?
Too hard to navigate
Why learn it now, that I retire in less than 1-year, you are YOUNG, you can
handle it.
I only need to make a 2-line change, why open up RDP?
Performance is too slow.(Yet they have weather bug installed, and 12-Open
windows!)

Yes, all of these have very simple answers...

But, like a lot of companies, we have had a cut back in our development
staff of about 350% in the past 4-years, and the work-load keeps getting
bigger. So, the "Fudge/Learning" time has been cut down...

We have had 2 developers who were using RDP, and went back to SEU, because
RDP is "too complicated". Mostly they say they don't know how to navigate to
do simple things. They do NOT give me specifics...

I have been using WDSC/RDP/RDI for over 7-years. It covers all my
programming needs and more! But, it took me while to get really comfortable
with this IDE.


-Ken Killian-


-----Original Message-----
From: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Buck Calabro
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 10:47 AM
To: wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [WDSCI-L] RDi learning curve (was: RDi Lite?)

On 6/25/2013 9:58 AM, Ken Killian wrote:

Count me in as a BIG FAN of Rational Developer & Eclipse. But, the initial
learning curve is HUGE! It is hard to get newbie productive on it right
away....

I've been using multiple IDEs for so long (work, home) that I can't remember
what my learning curve was like. Although I would think that if any of them
had a *huge* learning curve, I'd have remembered it.
Maybe not.

What did you think made for a huge learning curve?
--buck
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