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"I don't have time to learn a time-saving technique" is such a lazy,
short-term approach to anything. And I'm approaching retirement age and
love learning new RDP skills. Those lame-duckers who (let's face it) -
can't be bothered - to learn something new are probably the type who
will go into a steep decline once they retire.

Trevor Briggs
Analyst/Programmer
Lincare, Inc.
(727) 431-1246
TBriggs2@xxxxxxxxxxx

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From: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Ken Killian
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 9:59 AM
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client
forSystem i & iSeries
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] RDi Lite?

I have many co-workers, who are MUCH older than me. Many have less than
3-years until retirement. I still have almost 20 years until
retirement...

So, from their point of view, why invest in learning new cool tools,
when they are going to retire soon? Would an auto mechanic, who is going
to retire in 1-2 years, invest a lot in new tools? Why? That is just
plain dumb...
<LOL>

Since I have a long way to go, the investment in learning is well worth
it to me.
<Joy Joy>

Even a new developer, under 5-years experiences is swamped, so he has no
time to learn a new programming environment. And his Older mentors don't
use this "new Fangled" IDE. So, he doesn't either. By the way, he works
in another building/department. Otherwise, I would be showing him the
power of Rational Developer...

And the install process is "sort of" complicated. Download the trial and
install. Then open a help-desk ticket to get the permanent license to
install from the company license. The official company CD is the old RDi
7.5, way outdate now...

My C# developer co-workers show me the simplicity of Visual Studio.
Although they have to use Eclipse for Android development. But, they are
now using the simpler Free Android IDE. They like how much Cleaner and
simpler that IDE is over ECLIPSE. They are supporting mobile development
for iPhones & Androids. Among others.

Eclipse is Great! But, in a way, it "Too Flexible" for newbies...

You have to go through preferences to change the font and zoom on the
font. While on Visual Studio, you can zoom in & out on the Font with a
scroll wheel on your mouse, or shortcut keys.

Count me in as a BIG FAN of Rational Developer & Eclipse. But, the
initial learning curve is HUGE! It is hard to get newbie productive on
it right away....

It would be nice to have a "Gateway" or "Lite" version to bring more
people to the Rational Development world. But, I completely understand
why IBM does NOT have a lite version.

-Ken Killian-

-----Original Message-----
From: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Jon Paris
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 5:12 PM
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client
for System i & iSeries
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] RDi Lite?


On 2013-06-24, at 4:33 PM, Brian Parkins <goodprophet.bp@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Finally, let me pose this one: how would plumbers or carpenters react
if they had to purchase new tools every couple of years _and_ pay an
annual fee for the privilege of using them? (I guess it depends on the

price.)

Well they frequently have to update their tools for new technology - and
do so because it makes them more efficient. They also have consumables
(i.e. maintenance) in the form of blades, drill bits, new battery packs,
etc.

I appreciate it is not a perfect analogy by any means. On the other hand
I don't know of many carpenters that make $100 an hour which is not
unheard of in the programming field.


Jon Paris

www.partner400.com
www.SystemiDeveloper.com




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