I'll second Trevor's comments. I too am approaching retirement (906 days but who's counting) and still subscribe to the philosophy of "Learn something new every day or die".
As to learning curve, I can't remember when I started using WDSC but I do know CODE400 was still included. I set aside 30 minutes after lunch every day to use WDSC (the new tool). Sometimes it went well and I'd use it for a whole hour or even more before getting frustrated at the slow progress and get back to SEU. Eventually, as now, I use RDp/RDi for most programming tasks, when I get to still program.
Use the right tool for the job, but don't be afraid to try something new. Now SEU frustrates me more than RDP/RDi.
HTH,
TIA,
Thanks,
Whichever applies
Dave B
Sometimes I get the feeling the whole world is against me, but deep down I know that's not true. Some of the smaller countries are neutral. -- Robert Orben (comedy writer)
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From: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Briggs, Trevor (TBriggs2)
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 9:50 AM
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Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] RDi Lite?
"I don't have time to learn a time-saving technique" is such a lazy, short-term approach to anything. And I'm approaching retirement age and love learning new RDP skills. Those lame-duckers who (let's face it) - can't be bothered - to learn something new are probably the type who will go into a steep decline once they retire.
Trevor Briggs
Analyst/Programmer
Lincare, Inc.
(727) 431-1246
TBriggs2@xxxxxxxxxxx
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On Behalf Of Ken Killian
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 9:59 AM
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client forSystem i & iSeries
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] RDi Lite?
I have many co-workers, who are MUCH older than me. Many have less than 3-years until retirement. I still have almost 20 years until retirement...
So, from their point of view, why invest in learning new cool tools, when they are going to retire soon? Would an auto mechanic, who is going to retire in 1-2 years, invest a lot in new tools? Why? That is just plain dumb...
<LOL>
Since I have a long way to go, the investment in learning is well worth it to me.
<Joy Joy>
Even a new developer, under 5-years experiences is swamped, so he has no time to learn a new programming environment. And his Older mentors don't use this "new Fangled" IDE. So, he doesn't either. By the way, he works in another building/department. Otherwise, I would be showing him the power of Rational Developer...
And the install process is "sort of" complicated. Download the trial and install. Then open a help-desk ticket to get the permanent license to install from the company license. The official company CD is the old RDi 7.5, way outdate now...
My C# developer co-workers show me the simplicity of Visual Studio.
Although they have to use Eclipse for Android development. But, they are now using the simpler Free Android IDE. They like how much Cleaner and simpler that IDE is over ECLIPSE. They are supporting mobile development for iPhones & Androids. Among others.
Eclipse is Great! But, in a way, it "Too Flexible" for newbies...
You have to go through preferences to change the font and zoom on the font. While on Visual Studio, you can zoom in & out on the Font with a scroll wheel on your mouse, or shortcut keys.
Count me in as a BIG FAN of Rational Developer & Eclipse. But, the initial learning curve is HUGE! It is hard to get newbie productive on it right away....
It would be nice to have a "Gateway" or "Lite" version to bring more people to the Rational Development world. But, I completely understand why IBM does NOT have a lite version.
-Ken Killian-
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On Behalf Of Jon Paris
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 5:12 PM
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client for System i & iSeries
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] RDi Lite?
On 2013-06-24, at 4:33 PM, Brian Parkins <goodprophet.bp@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Finally, let me pose this one: how would plumbers or carpenters react
if they had to purchase new tools every couple of years _and_ pay an
annual fee for the privilege of using them? (I guess it depends on the
price.)
Well they frequently have to update their tools for new technology - and do so because it makes them more efficient. They also have consumables (i.e. maintenance) in the form of blades, drill bits, new battery packs, etc.
I appreciate it is not a perfect analogy by any means. On the other hand I don't know of many carpenters that make $100 an hour which is not unheard of in the programming field.
Jon Paris
www.partner400.com
www.SystemiDeveloper.com
midrange.com
