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Our contract is up in November and the invoice GEAC sent me was for $497k a
year.

Of course, after much discussion with our GEAC rep it's been lowered but
we're still questioning is it worth it even at that dollar amount?

Judy Pieper-Young
IT Director
Hach Company
jyoung@hach.com
970-669-3050 x2550


-----Original Message-----
From: *Smalley Ken [mailto:ksmalley@denisonhydraulics.com]
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 9:19 AM
To: jbausers-l@midrange.com
Subject: RE: JBA ML - ERP system lifespan


Hi all,
Now I understand why I haven't seen a sales rep since Geac took over JBA,
I'm not a Style Account.
My 5 year maintenance contract is up. What are other companies doing in
regards to this issue? Is maintenance from GEAC really worth it? Opinions
please.

Ken Smalley
IT Director - Denison Hydraulics
ksmalley@denisonhydraulics.com

 -----Original Message-----
From: jbausers-l@midrange.com [mailto:jbausers-l@midrange.com]
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 9:49 AM
To: jbausers-l@midrange.com; *Smalley Ken
Subject: RE: JBA ML - ERP system lifespan




Apology gladly accepted, Michelle.  Anytime you want to post internal
Geac
emails on the public site, I'm sure everybody would welcome it.  I'm sure
it's a very frustrating situation to be in, still trying to promote the
product while customer after customer looks elsewhere.

Stefan Jansson
Fossil

 -----Original Message-----
From: System21Americas [mailto:System21Americas@geac.com]
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 9:32 AM
To: 'jbausers-l@midrange.com'
Subject: RE: JBA ML - ERP system lifespan


Please accept our apologies for the following post.  It was intended as
an
internal email and was inadvertently sent to the list.

Michelle Hobbs
Director
S21 Support & Maintenance
(972) 550-9176 ext. 5110
michelle.hobbs@geac.com

 -----Original Message-----
From: Chris Champlain
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 8:31 AM
To: 'jbausers-l@midrange.com'
Subject: RE: JBA ML - ERP system lifespan


Another one.  Where is our sales force or is this not a Style Account so
we
don't care.
Just an opinion
Thanks
Chris

 -----Original Message-----
From: Avryl Baldwin [mailto:avrylb@fraseralexander.co.za]
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 2:40 AM
To: 'jbausers-l@midrange.com'
Subject: RE: JBA ML - ERP system lifespan


Hi all

We have been on System 21 for over 10 years and my company are going
though
an exercise now of looking at new systems, and by December we will have
made
a decision on what our future package will be.

Although System 21 will still be included in our investigation, I think
it
will most probably be replaced by a more modern web-based package.



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hudson McVay [SMTP:hudsonm@steemer.com]
> Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 6:35 PM
> To:   jbausers-l@midrange.com
> Subject:      JBA ML - ERP system lifespan
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> Was just wondering if the group had a thought about how long the
[typical]
> lifespan of an ERP installation is. Considering the effort involved to
> implement a ERP system is enormous and costly,
> how long could you expect to use one before the possibilty of replacing
it
> comes up.
> (obviously business needs, roi calcs, technology advancements, software
> partner relationships, many things are involved in a question like
this)
> We currently have been using System21 for about 5 years, and had Mapics
> for
> about 12+ years before that. Basically, we have some issues with the
long
> term use off S21 and any 3-7 year planning involves our relationship
with
> this product.
>
> Thanks for any thoughts on a somewhat vague question.
>
> Hudson McVay
> Stanley Steemer
>
>
>
>
>
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