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Tilak, No one is trying to hide anything from you - we simply want this forum to be what it was designed to be. This is a discussion forum of issues and solutions. This is not a forum for airing dirty laundry or advertisements. Geac does not use this forum to "advertise or sell", so why should third parties? Yes source code is an issue. Yes proper support is always an issue. Yes some PTFs will not be effective. I am sure that you made a sound decision for your company. But to continually attack Geac and this forum is counter productive. I would like to get the postings back to a "open" discussion of issues with the software. Let's cut out this nonsense and get the forum back on track. Next issue - please. Bob Keeley. "Ed Lybrook" <elybrook@btcgrp.co To: <JBAUSERS-L@midrange.com> m> cc: Sent by: Subject: RE: support owner-jbausers-l@mi drange.com 10/31/00 07:49 AM Please respond to JBAUSERS-L Tilak, You must have a financial benefit to keep pushing this proposal. I really don't think this the venue for such things. Ed -----Original Message----- From: owner-jbausers-l@midrange.com [mailto:owner-jbausers-l@midrange.com]On Behalf Of de Zoysa Tilak Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 3:59 AM To: JBAUSERS-L@midrange.com Subject: RE: support Charles, You have a very valid point. I know of users who have been threatened in many ways and consider this to be a ridiculous position for a customer be in. In my business life I have never heard of or experienced a situation where I have bought a product or service and ended up being threatened or even nervous as to what the vendor will do to me. Since we have 3 alternatives: a) Stay with GEAC b) Go to third parties c) Take the support in house Why don't we, rather than block hot mail etc. all of us submit names of third party support organizations and select say 3-4 of these and formally admit them into the Group, allow them say a sales mailer once a week or some such arrangement. My view is that by trying to keep viable alternatives hidden from us we are removing the freedom of choices from users. Regards, TDZ (Tilak) --- Charles Greene <greenec@millercurtain.com> wrote: > Tilak, > My apologies to you, the groups initial response to > your posting was a bit > rough. As a user asking a question or making a > statement about how you are > addressing support issues with System 21 you raised > some intriguing > discussion points. However, I think you under > played the impact of not > having future enhancements to the package. I agree > the process has not > worked recently as well as it should but I am > inclined to believe that the > power in the numbers will result in an improved > process. I also believe the > force that users will apply to get changes made that > are needed and allow us > all to keep up with the curve will come from Geac. > I would think that if System 21 is not meeting your > current needs or support > is not meeting your current needs then one of your > options would be to bring > that in-house. Rather than paying a third party for > potentially no more > than you have currently. By bringing it in-house > you start saving that > support money to offset the expense of conversion to > a different package in > the future. You must think this is a future > possibility since you will > receive no more updates from GEAC. > > Charles Greene > Miller Curtain Co. Inc. > > > Apologies to the group - > > > > I forgot to sign off I that am the Deputy Chairman > of > > Nissan in Sri Lanka. > > > > TDZ > > > > +--- > | This is the JBA Software Users Mailing List! > | To submit a new message send your mail to > JBAUSERS-L@midrange.com. > | To subscribe to this list send email to > JBAUSERS-L-SUB@midrange.com. > | To unsubscribe from this list send email to > JBAUSERS-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. > | Questions should be directed to the list owner: > doug333@aol.com. > +--- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! 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