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That looks like a great idea but I don't have the technical knowledge to
assess it in our situation.

I'm not sure what tool is used for backup and restore but does this
screenshot provide any clues?

Are you saying we RSTLIB from the old VTL and then let SAN replication move
the files to the other DC and then save to the VTL there? I'm not familiar
with the difference in function between SAVLIB and SAVRST and so the effort
saved

On Fri, Feb 21, 2020, 12:41 PM Evan Harris <auctionitis@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

If you are going to:
RSTLIB->Transmit to new site->SAVLIB
then - assuming you are using a storage subsystem - maybe if you set up
some storage replication you can avoid an explicit SAVRST for each library
(or whatever) and just do the saves when the storage is synched at the
remote site. A replication product could do the same thing for you if you
are using internal disk.

Just a thought.


On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 11:53 AM Laurence Chiu <lchiu7@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

That looks at least feasible given the geographical constraints.

Thanks

On Fri, Feb 21, 2020, 1:47 AM Rob Berendt <rob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

<snip>
I don't know if that would work since once a VTL backup is restored
what
format is it?
</snip>
Same format that the data would be if you restored from a 3590, 3570,
LTO1-7, etc.

What they are suggesting is
1 - PRODA at site A saves to old VTL. Old VTL is also hooked up to
DEVA
at site A.
2 - RSTLIB is done on DEVA at site A. This library looks the same as
if
it were restored from mylar tape.
3 - Then you either save that to a *SAVF and transmit that to DEVB or
PRODB, or you use SAVRST to move it from DEVA to DEVB or PRODB at site
B.
4 - Once it is on some lpar at site B then you do your SAVLIB to your
new
VTL.
Step 2 will require space for the library to be restored.
Step 3 will require the space for a *SAVF, unless you use SAVRST.
Step 3 will also require significantly more bandwidth than the
automatic
replication between like VTL's with good dedup.
Step 4 will require space on the target lpar to restore the data and
save
to local VTL.
All this will lose all your retention dates that you've set up with
BRMS.
All this will lose all your capability to do a WRKOBJBRM and find what
tapes have what object.

It's doable but clearly not what I'd recommend.
I realize that VTL's are expensive. Compare them to one of those huge
IBM
media libraries with 10 drives and hundreds of LTO7 tapes loaded into
it
at
$/tape and it's not so bad. Now add the dedup and automatic
replication
and they really shine. Plus they also remove the hours of manual tape
handling, dealing with Iron Mountain or whomever to pick up, store,
retrieve tapes, etc.


Rob Berendt
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Hi Ed

This is what one of our local tech users said we could do


- Restore from VTL to Site A Dev LPARs
- Transfer from Site A Dev to Site B prod LPAR;
- Save from Site B prod LPAR to Site B prod ATL/VTL;
- Transfer from Site A dev to Site B dr LPAR;
- Save from Site B dr LPAR to Site B dr ATL/VTL;
-

At the moment Site A VTL is ProtecTier.

Site B VTL not purchased yet.

I don't know if that would work since once a VTL backup is restored
what
format is it?

The devil is in the detail which I don't have yet.



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