I've been following this hoping you found an answer. We have lots of fields like the one you are describing. It would be nice to inhibit input and limit the users to prompting for valid values on some of the fields. Right now all of the fields allow input and prompting. We just validate the field and pop an error if they clear the field or key an invalid value. For some fields the choices are so limited and known to the users that keying the value directly is faster than prompting anyways. But for some of them the valid values depend on previous choices, and prompting is really the only way to find a valid value.
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Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Tabbing to a DDS output field
Well
The field exit dilemma is (somewhat) answered I talked to the user as to if they use the field exit - it will clear the value I was told - no it doesn’t a few different users in that office said the same thing I had to go over and see what they did
They were in fact using the Tab key
So I told them that the Tab key is NOT the field exit key Their reply was (I swear you CANNOT make this up) - yes it is You press the Tab key and it exits one field to go to another It took a few seconds for that to sink in with me Hence :- Tab = field exit
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Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Tabbing to a DDS output field
Yay! That's progress! I'll be interested to hear the results. Good luck!
On 9/5/2019 2:29 PM, Alan Shore via MIDRANGE-L wrote:
Thanks for the reply Joe
I understand what you are saying and realized that if they ARE in fact
using field exit - then they MUST be clearing out data I have a call
into the user who told me that - for further discussion
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Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Tabbing to a DDS output field
I respectfully submit that it is easy to do. If they're using tab to get to the field, then it won't be an issue. If they're using field exit, then they're wiping out other fields; that seems unlikely.
But if you're ADAMANT about it, you can still handle it. I really didn't want to go much further down this road, but you can put auto record advance on the field. Then if they field exit, control will return to the program and you repopulate it and redisplay. At most they'll see a quick blink.
There are ALWAYS ways around it. My point is that you're going to throw out the baby with the bathwater for what I consider to be encouraging a bad behavior. And to be clear, the bad behaviro is not the field exit, but complaining about a non-issue. You might even use this as an opportunity to open a dialog about what constitutes a problem and what is just perception.
This is as close as you're going to get. The behavior is as requested (tab to a non-enterable field) and the one edge condition (clearing the field with field exit) is non-destructive. To me that's an opportunity for communication, not a reason to throw out the solution.
Or not. That's your call.
On 9/5/2019 2:14 PM, Alan Shore via MIDRANGE-L wrote:
Hi Evan
Just to make it easier for the user
The cursor ends up on the left hand side of the screen while the
field I am talking about is ALL THE WAY OVER on the right hand side
(NOTE - THE upper case is me being sarcastic - and stupid. What can I
tell you
- Its been one of those days)
Really, its not such a big deal, but I thought that it would just be
easy to do Once I discovered what I wanted wasn't that easy - I
became a dog with a bone, thinking that there MUST be a way Looks
like I was wrong
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