Re: Power6-Power7 Save 21 reload issue -- MIDRANGE-L

Rob, like your example except with all the different hardware mix'n' match
how would you know for sure. In the case I had it was something the power6
lacked that the 7 needed.

On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 7:43 AM, <rob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Evan,

I think that attitude is a little simplistic. Would you expect your S/36
save to be bootable media for a B10? No. There were some significant
hardware differences. Yes, that example is a little extreme. However,
let's say IBM came out with 6.1. After 6.1 came out and before 7.1 comes
out they make a 5886 disk container. Now, an existing 6.1 shop might be
able to get the new hardware, but before they do, they need to put on cume
such-and-such. A new 6.1 shop could do one of two things. One, not hook
up the 5886 until they install 6.1 and upgrade it to that cume. Or, two,
get a new respin of 6.1 that already has that cume applied. I think
that's a better explanation. Does that make sense?

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From: Evan Harris <auctionitis@xxxxxxxxx>
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 08/03/2011 11:20 PM
Subject: Re: Power6-Power7 Save 21 reload issue
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Kind of insane if specific hardware requires certain minimum spin levels.
You should be able to get there with something a little easier than
reloading LIC and then re-applying PTFs.

On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Kirk Goins <kirkgoins@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Per IBM way of thinking, you can only get to a Re-spin level by

installing

that level. The idea is IBM makes a master ( re-spin ) with a 'known'

set of

code levels and PTFs. They can not guaranty you can get your system to

that

very specific set of code by PTFs. So basically you need to SLIP LIC

and

the Base OS with the desired Re-spin media. Then apply all your favorite
PTFs.

On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 5:48 PM, Evan Harris <auctionitis@xxxxxxxxx>

wrote:

I understand re-spin - it was the RSE I missed.

I'm still curious as to how to get a given level of system up to the
next level if applying cumes and groups as you did is not sufficient.
Unless you missed the last cume and didn't have the technology refresh
PTF installed.

Given any standalone system, how would I establish what spin level of
lic is currently running on it ?

On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 12:03 PM, Jack Kingsley

<iseriesflorida@xxxxxxxxx>

wrote:

Evan, respin is what version of lic levels your running.

On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 8:01 PM, Jack Kingsley

<iseriesflorida@xxxxxxxxx

wrote:

Yes respins, Kirk can break down what the -C and -10 are, looks like
revision C?? Is there a website that says how you can migrate

systems

based

on RSE levels. From what I was told I had 3 options to choose from,

I

choose the route that would take the least amount of time.

Intermixing

power hardware and hmc controlled/non hmc controlled systems seems

to be

a

mix'n'match currently on if it will work or not.

On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 5:10 PM, Kirk Goins <kirkgoins@xxxxxxxxx>

wrote:

RSE is a short way to say RS-610-E being Respin V6R1 rev E

Looks like from the Link posted earlier
http://www-947.ibm.com/systems/support/i/planning/resave/index.html

LIC respins are Alpha and SS1 are Numeric
V7R1 is currently at -C and -10
V6R1M1 is currently at -D and -10
V6R1M0 is currently at -G and -10

On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Evan Harris <auctionitis@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

I'm familiar with a re-spin, but what does a respin have that

applying

cumes and groups doesn't bring to the table ?

Haven't heard the term RSE to describe a respin either - what

does it

stand for ? Are you sure they are the same thing ?

On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 8:09 AM, <rob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Respins or resaves of the OS. Certain hardware may require

that

the

LIC

be a certain level before installation. Oh, it still may be

7.1,

but

it

may have more PTF's built into it.

Also some "technology refresh" ptf's are very comprehensive and

IBM

sometimes generates a new respin to allow you to get an

installation

done

without really having to step through some strange hoops.

Even with a new resave you should apply the latest cume and the

latest

applicable groups.

I always use the latest resave from:

http://www-947.ibm.com/systems/support/i/planning/resave/index.html

Rob Berendt
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