Re: Left AS/400 and Returned

["Jim Franz" <franz400@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

probably pass the buck, blame the contracted firm, get a bonus for cleaning
it up....
you won't hear about most failures-there is no incentive to come clean.
there also seems to be no incentive to careful planning, and asking some
very
detailed questions up front before the go-ahead.
jim
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <michael@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 10:50 AM
Subject: RE: Left AS/400 and Returned


> Did they also fire the CIO?
>
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: Re: Left AS/400 and Returned
> > From: R Bruce Hoffman <bruce.hoffman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Date: Fri, April 29, 2005 10:30 am
> > To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >
> > I worked for a company that, in 1994, decided that the three AS400's
> > (one 300GB+ production machine, one 50GB development machine, one
> > sandbox machine, a 20S IIRC, and 8+ million lines of custom code in RPG,
> > COBOL and PL/I) decided that it was time to replace everything in a
> > "Business Re-Engineering" project.
> >
> > To what? AIX and Informix.
> >
> > I recommended upgrading the boxes to RISC, installing and using DataProp
> > and deploying the data warehouse from another 400. They said no. There
> > were committed to coming off the 400 platform.
> >
> > That was it for me. I went back to consulting.
> >
> > For three years they tried just to get a basic data warehouse running
> > that was accurate and could be updated from the 80,000+ active contracts
> > maintained on the 400s in less than 3 days.
> >
> > Never happened.
> >
> > 3 years, 15+ MILLION dollars later... what did they do? They fired the
> > contract firm that had convinced them to do this in the first place.
> > They upgraded all their 400s. They installed Data Propagator. They built
> > the warehouse on a 400.
> >
> > Still up today.
> >
> > By the way, out of 24 or so, highly skilled, multi-language, VERY loyal,
> > in-house trained programmers, all but one or two have left. So the
> > company lost a LOT more than $15 million.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 2005-04-28 at 19:58, Frances Denoncourt wrote:
> > > Have any of you moved all of your apps AND data off the AS/400 on to
an
> > > SQL server and then moved back to the AS/400 (at least for data) or
> > > really wished you could?
> > >
> > > Looks like we are not only moving the apps to the dotnet world but
also
> > > our data.
> > >
> > > Should I be scared silly??
> > > Any horror stories?
> > >
> > > Thanks - I think.
> > >
> > > Fran Denoncourt
> > > Sr. Programmer/Analyst
> > > Pinal County Treasurer's Office
> > > Florence, AZ 85232
> > > (520) 866-6404
> > >
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