RE: Wow. -- MIDRANGE-L

Joe,

This phrase from Look is most interesting, maybe typical of others?

"what about IBM?" ...  "Not aligned with looksoftware vision"

Bob



| -----Original Message-----
| From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx 
| [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joe Pluta
| Sent: Thursday, 14 April 2005 10:41 AM
| To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
| Subject: RE: Wow.
| 
| 
| > From: Bob Moore - Arterial
| > 
| > Joe,
| > 
| > To my surprise, I also notice that Look Software are 
| participating as 
| > well?
| > 
| > Bob
| 
| Yup.  Look has a new rich client interface.  They call it 
| "Smart Clients".
| 
| The apologists are stating that this conference is in no way 
| about moving applications off of the iSeries.  They say this 
| even though the MAP was created by Microsoft and ASNA and 
| features ASNA's Monarch product, which specifically is 
| designed to move applications off of the iSeries.  I don't 
| know if they've drunk too much of the Microsoft Koolaid, or 
| if they think we have, but this is their story, and they're 
| sticking to it.
| 
| The big phrase I keep hearing, especially from Wayne Madden, 
| is that they are trying to stop the situation where someone 
| wants to integrate the iSeries with an existing Windows 
| application, and the iSeries guys say "No."  And yet, I'm 
| looking at all the players in the MAP, and none of them are 
| about application integration.
| 
| They're either a product like Monarch, designed to move your 
| application to .NET, or Smart Clients, designed to move your 
| user interface to .NET, or ASNA Visual RPG, designed to move 
| your RPG programmers to .NET.  Not one of these products is 
| about integrating .NET applications with iSeries applications.
| 
| I don't know about you, but I don't know a single iSeries 
| programmer who would have a problem integrating with a 
| Windows application.  Typically it requires some sort of 
| SQLServer<>DB2 interface, or maybe a realtime link to DB2 
| data (<shudder> ODBC, in worst case).  It's not rocket 
| science and most competent programmers don't need a tool to 
| help them do it.
| 
| And maybe that's why all the tool vendors are part of this 
| MAP deal: there's money to be had in moving people off of the 
| iSeries, even if it doesn't do the client any good. 
| 
| Joe
| 
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