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>> BTW, if that's a conflict of interest with your employer, Janet, I'm willing to deal. My employer has absolutely no business relationship in place with LANSA, and neither do I. I'm sorry my opinions offend you, and that you're so mired in your belief that only IBM products are worth evaluating that you're not willing to believe real solutions exist. It's your loss. I'm not going to waste my time, or more space on this list, arguing about it. I do think some of the application architectures Joe and others tout are good things; I spent a good portion of my career at IBM helping design, build, and deliver enablers for those architectures. I just don't happen to believe that business programmers should need to be concerned with the underlying structure at the level you guys are debating... That was my only point. Janet Krueger Andrews Consulting Group
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