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Steve

If you want to run websphere forget the 2248, you need a processor with a L2
cache!!

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Richter" <srichter@AutoCoder.com>
To: <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 6:03 PM
Subject: 270 quote


> My partner and I are considering the purchase of a model 270. Here are
some
> of the numbers we are being quoted:
>
> The base price, basically just for the cpu:
> 270-2248 ( 150 cpw, 25 interactive cpw, P5 software group )  $6,800
> 270-2432 ( 1070 cpw, 0 interactive, p10 software group )  $10,700
>
> The base price for these models does not include any minimum dasd or
memory.
> Here are some hardware feature prices:
>
> 3022 128MB main storage $1024
> 4317 8GB dasd $1400
> 4582 4GB qic tape $1300
> 4838 100MBPS ethernet $900
> 4525 CD-ROM $415
>
> Extended maintenance ( not sure what that is )
> 270-2248 $111 per month
> 270-2432 $268 per month
>
> Software
> 5722-WDS Websphere dev studio    P5 - $3650    P10 - $8200
> 5733-SM2 prepay software subscription  P5 - $1168   P10 - $3893
>
> Grand total
> Forget the 10,700 and 6,800 base number. The 2248 is close to $20,000 and
> the 2432 is over $28,000.
> ( not counting hardware and software support )
>
>
> Some comments and questions:
>
> The only difference between hardware prices of the different model 270's
is
> in the cpu. That looks to be about $4000.  So the P5 2248 ( 150/25 cpw )
is
> $14,500 for hardware vs $17,900 for the P10 2432 ( 1070/0 cpw ).
>
> The extended hardware maintenance looks to be a hidden charge on the
faster
> 2432.  $268 per month vs $130 on the 2248.
>
> What is the story with WebSphere?  This is a real show stopper. Looks like
> the only way to get rpg ile is to pay $8200 for the total 5722-WDS
package!!
> Is that true?
>
> Do we need, have to get the $3893 software subscription?   We are local
> contract programmers and could live with v5r1 for the life of the system.
> Will an upgrade to v5r2 be another $10,000 without it?
>
> No way do I want to pay $415 for a cd rom drive and $1300 for a tape
drive.
> Any alternatives?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve Richter
>
>
>
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