RE: 270 quote -- MIDRANGE-L

Look into IBM's Partners in Development (PID).  They have a website.  Try 
starting here:  http://www.as400.ibm.com/developer/  I
believe you still get 50% discount on hardware and free software.  We are IBM 
Business partners (IRA) and we can get a 1% per month
lease on hardware and free software.

For example, if 270 hardware is $25000, we pay $250 month.  That's a deal.

We also pay hardware maintenance, but not software subscription.

_________________
Art Tostaine, Jr.
CCA, Inc.
Jackson, NJ 08527

> -----Original Message-----
> From: midrange-l-admin@midrange.com
> [mailto:midrange-l-admin@midrange.com]On Behalf Of rob@dekko.com
> Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 12:55 PM
> To: midrange-l@midrange.com
> Subject: RE: 270 quote
>
>
>
> David,
>
> I think he was looking for alternative vendors.  Like, why does the
> freaking cd drive have a speaker output on it on the 400 CD drive?  So's I
> can listen to Bob Seger while doing coding?  If they are using a generic
> CD, why can't you plug and play other CD drives?  Doesn't someone out there
> have a worthless 400 that they wouldn't mind swapping other equipment in to
> see if it works?  I remember people doing some weird stuff with the old
> 5364's and the AS/Entry's.  I heard of someone getting a PC modem card,
> (not serial card), working on either a 5364 or an AS/Entry as a comm port.
>
> Rob Berendt
>
> ==================
> A smart person learns from their mistakes,
> but a wise person learns from OTHER peoples mistakes.
>
>
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>                     "David Dunfield"
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>                     09/04/2001 11:08 AM
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> Without cd rom and tape drive you will have a real hard time loading
> software and ptf's (plus backup once in a while may be nice)!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: midrange-l-admin@midrange.com
> [mailto:midrange-l-admin@midrange.com]On Behalf Of Steve Richter
> Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 12:03 PM
> To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
> Subject: 270 quote
>
>
> My partner and I are considering the purchase of a model 270. Here are some
> of the numbers we are being quoted:
>
> The base price, basically just for the cpu:
> 270-2248 ( 150 cpw, 25 interactive cpw, P5 software group )  $6,800
> 270-2432 ( 1070 cpw, 0 interactive, p10 software group )  $10,700
>
> The base price for these models does not include any minimum dasd or
> memory.
> Here are some hardware feature prices:
>
> 3022 128MB main storage $1024
> 4317 8GB dasd $1400
> 4582 4GB qic tape $1300
> 4838 100MBPS ethernet $900
> 4525 CD-ROM $415
>
> Extended maintenance ( not sure what that is )
> 270-2248 $111 per month
> 270-2432 $268 per month
>
> Software
> 5722-WDS Websphere dev studio    P5 - $3650    P10 - $8200
> 5733-SM2 prepay software subscription  P5 - $1168   P10 - $3893
>
> Grand total
> Forget the 10,700 and 6,800 base number. The 2248 is close to $20,000 and
> the 2432 is over $28,000.
> ( not counting hardware and software support )
>
>
> Some comments and questions:
>
> The only difference between hardware prices of the different model 270's is
> in the cpu. That looks to be about $4000.  So the P5 2248 ( 150/25 cpw ) is
> $14,500 for hardware vs $17,900 for the P10 2432 ( 1070/0 cpw ).
>
> The extended hardware maintenance looks to be a hidden charge on the faster
> 2432.  $268 per month vs $130 on the 2248.
>
> What is the story with WebSphere?  This is a real show stopper. Looks like
> the only way to get rpg ile is to pay $8200 for the total 5722-WDS
> package!!
> Is that true?
>
> Do we need, have to get the $3893 software subscription?   We are local
> contract programmers and could live with v5r1 for the life of the system.
> Will an upgrade to v5r2 be another $10,000 without it?
>
> No way do I want to pay $415 for a cd rom drive and $1300 for a tape drive.
> Any alternatives?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve Richter
>
>
>
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