RE: 270 quote -- MIDRANGE-L

Outrageous, isn't it.  You can use Netshare400.com for $120 a year.

$900 for a nic card!  I just bought one for my PC for $5.00.  (Btw, the tape
drive price looks like a deal.  Did you leave out the price for the
controller <g>? The 8MM's are a lot more.)

If you want an AS/400 for RPG development (or just about any non-java
development), I'd consider buying a used one.  I would only consider a new
270 if you also want to develop Java servlets.  (Of course, for that I'd
seriously consider something else for development.  These as/400's are just
too expensive.  And, once you do that, you may wind up selling non-as/400
solutions.  I can't help but suspect that this is IBM's master plan.)

The development tools does include all the compilers and PC development
tools for one price.  If you go to V5 you can't avoid that.

My .02,

Phil



> -----Original Message-----
> From: midrange-l-admin@midrange.com
> [mailto:midrange-l-admin@midrange.com]On Behalf Of Steve Richter
> Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 12:03 PM
> To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
> Subject: 270 quote
>
>
> My partner and I are considering the purchase of a model 270.
> Here are some
> of the numbers we are being quoted:
>
> The base price, basically just for the cpu:
> 270-2248 ( 150 cpw, 25 interactive cpw, P5 software group )  $6,800
> 270-2432 ( 1070 cpw, 0 interactive, p10 software group )  $10,700
>
> The base price for these models does not include any minimum dasd
> or memory.
> Here are some hardware feature prices:
>
> 3022 128MB main storage $1024
> 4317 8GB dasd $1400
> 4582 4GB qic tape $1300
> 4838 100MBPS ethernet $900
> 4525 CD-ROM $415
>
> Extended maintenance ( not sure what that is )
> 270-2248 $111 per month
> 270-2432 $268 per month
>
> Software
> 5722-WDS Websphere dev studio    P5 - $3650    P10 - $8200
> 5733-SM2 prepay software subscription  P5 - $1168   P10 - $3893
>
> Grand total
> Forget the 10,700 and 6,800 base number. The 2248 is close to $20,000 and
> the 2432 is over $28,000.
> ( not counting hardware and software support )
>
>
> Some comments and questions:
>
> The only difference between hardware prices of the different
> model 270's is
> in the cpu. That looks to be about $4000.  So the P5 2248 (
> 150/25 cpw ) is
> $14,500 for hardware vs $17,900 for the P10 2432 ( 1070/0 cpw ).
>
> The extended hardware maintenance looks to be a hidden charge on
> the faster
> 2432.  $268 per month vs $130 on the 2248.
>
> What is the story with WebSphere?  This is a real show stopper. Looks like
> the only way to get rpg ile is to pay $8200 for the total
> 5722-WDS package!!
> Is that true?
>
> Do we need, have to get the $3893 software subscription?   We are local
> contract programmers and could live with v5r1 for the life of the system.
> Will an upgrade to v5r2 be another $10,000 without it?
>
> No way do I want to pay $415 for a cd rom drive and $1300 for a
> tape drive.
> Any alternatives?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve Richter
>
>
>
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