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Mitchell, I agree, the screen speaks for itself. BUT, this Y2K statment (-28 yrs) will be a TEMPORARY statment, while we are setting up a BPCS V6.1 release. So, it's a questions of few weeks, not for ever !! So, my questions were for only a temporary solution. Pls give me your ideas on this solution based on that hypothesis. Thanks, Michael. -----Original Message----- From: owner-bpcs-l@midrange.com [mailto:owner-bpcs-l@midrange.com]On Behalf Of mitchell@nexgensoftware.com Sent: mercredi 15 septembre 1999 21:23 To: BPCS-L@midrange.com Subject: Re: Y2K tools for BPCS 5.1 Michael: Since your question about +/- 28 has evolved into a discussion about the merits of that method, I feel it is only fair to present some cautions as well a very strong alternative. We at Nexgen are certainly biased toward date expansion (converting 6 digit YYMMDD to 8 digit CCYYMMDD and 2 digit YY fields to CCYY) because that is the approach we have been using for the past 3 years. With over 300 customers and conversion projects now taking as little as 3 weeks (including testing), we are confident that field expansion is both superior and as quick or quicker to implement compared to +/- 28. Refer also to an article of mine that appeared in the November 9, 1998 issue of Midrange Systems magazine regarding the drawbacks of encapsulation. http://www.nexgeninfo.com/debunk.htm A Tale of Caution: Recently, Nexgen contracted with a new services customer to "Finish their Y2K testing" that another firm had started. The other firm had been contracted to implement +/- 28 solution and also to do the testing on a "time and materials basis". Our customer finally kicked the other firm out because the testing was turning up date-related bug after bug and costing our customer thousands. Once Nexgen started the testing project, it only took a couple of days before we saw some of the horrifying results. I have XXXX'ed out proprietary information (to protect the innocent) but the following is an true screen capture that speaks for itself: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------- ORD500-02 ##*!* XXXXXXX 3.0 Y2K LIVE SYSTEM *!*## QPADEV0006 9/01/71 Notice the system date! Revise Customer Order Entry XXXXXXXX 10:16:28 Order/Customer . XXXXX / 100316 Ship-To 1 * Store Name . . . . . . XXXXXM PRECISION XXXXXNG XXXXXM PRECISION XXXXXXXNG, INC Attention. . . . Address 1. . . . 11 XXXXX ROAD 11 XXXXX ROAD Address 2. . . . Address 3. . . . XXXXXX XXXXXXX Ste/Post/Country XX XXXX0 USA XX XXXXX0 USA Salesperson/CC . 36 * XXXN XXXXXXXX Split . . . . . * Co. / P/C . . . 20 * 100 * Default Whse . . XX XXXXXXE MASTER WAREHOUSE Customer PO . . 66869 PIC Revised date 9/01/71 Cert. . . . . . Notice Revised and Orig Dates! PIC Orig Date. . 9/01/71 Terms . . . . . 30 * Print .......... T Terms Desc. . . NET 30 Cust Tax Code . G/L Reason Code * Condition/Sale Corporate Cust . XXXXXX XXXXXX PRECISIO Credit. . . . . Order Status . . H * Credit hold Bank. . . . . . * Payment . . . . C * F1=Help F4=Prompt F5=Refresh F12=Cancel F14=Add Info F15=Ship-to Maint F16=Customer Notes F17=Order Notes F18=Ship-to Inquiry F21=Delete Order ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------- It has been an uphill struggle the entire way through this testing project. We probably won't take on another testing project where the client used +/- 28. Be warned. |--------+-----------------------> | | "Michael | | | BOURDIN" | | | <MKLBOURDIN@w| | | anadoo.fr> | | | | | | 09/13/99 | | | 01:30 PM | | | Please | | | respond to | | | BPCS-L | | | | |--------+-----------------------> >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- -| | | | To: bpcs <BPCS-L@midrange.com> | | cc: (bcc: Dan Mitchell/Nexgen) | | Subject: Y2K tools for BPCS 5.1 | >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- -| Just few questions about some Y2K tools on BPCS V5.1 1) Is there any tools that convert the Date (-28 yrs) automatically in the database ? 2) Is there some people who has already install them (and successfully test them) ? 3) How many time to setup ? Pls Answer me about this (because the Due Date of the Y2K is not discutable!). Regards. Michael. +--- | This is the BPCS Users Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to BPCS-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to BPCS-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to BPCS-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner: dasmussen@aol.com +--- +--- | This is the BPCS Users Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to BPCS-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to BPCS-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to BPCS-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner: dasmussen@aol.com +--- +--- | This is the BPCS Users Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to BPCS-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to BPCS-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to BPCS-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner: dasmussen@aol.com +---
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