Re: Y2K tools for BPCS 5.1 -- BPCS-L

Micheal,

While the experience referred below may be is essence factually correct, the 
commentary is biased in content and presentation while being totally
self serving. It is certainly not representative and while masquerading as 
perhaps being helpful to you, it is not.

Horror stories abound and I have heard some about Nexgen as well but not as bad 
as the ones about INTO2000.

Each case to its merits.

All the -28 year approaches work when dutifully implemented. How do you select 
the most appropriate one? Via much research and a dose of good
luck. We all sing a similar tune.

My -28 services answer all your questions in a most favourable way and numerous 
ultra happy references are available to take you call. Your move?

Regards

Zoran Pirjevec

mitchell@nexgensoftware.com wrote:

> Michael:
>
> Since your question about +/- 28 has evolved into a discussion about the 
>merits
> of that method, I feel it is only fair to present some cautions as well a very
> strong alternative.
>
> We at Nexgen are certainly biased toward date expansion (converting 6 digit
> YYMMDD to 8 digit CCYYMMDD and 2 digit YY fields to CCYY) because that is the
> approach we have been using for the past 3 years.  With over 300 customers and
> conversion projects now taking as little as 3 weeks (including testing), we 
>are
> confident that field expansion is both superior and as quick or quicker to
> implement compared to +/- 28.
>
> Refer also to an article of mine that appeared in the November 9, 1998 issue 
>of
> Midrange Systems magazine regarding the drawbacks of encapsulation.
>
>      http://www.nexgeninfo.com/debunk.htm
>
> A Tale of Caution:
> Recently, Nexgen contracted with a new services customer to "Finish their Y2K
> testing" that another firm had started.  The other firm had been contracted to
> implement +/- 28 solution and also to do the testing on a "time and materials
> basis".   Our customer finally kicked the other firm out because the testing 
>was
> turning up date-related bug after bug and costing our customer thousands.
>
> Once Nexgen started the testing project, it only took a couple of days before 
>we
> saw some of the horrifying results.
>
> I have XXXX'ed out proprietary information (to protect the innocent) but the
> following is an true screen capture that speaks for itself:
> 
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>  ORD500-02         ##*!* XXXXXXX 3.0 Y2K LIVE SYSTEM *!*##   QPADEV0006  
>9/01/71
>  Notice the system date!
>  Revise                       Customer Order Entry           XXXXXXXX   
>10:16:28
>  Order/Customer .  XXXXX / 100316                Ship-To    1  *     Store
>  Name . . . . . . XXXXXM PRECISION XXXXXNG       XXXXXM PRECISION XXXXXXXNG, 
>INC
>  Attention. . . .
>  Address 1. . . . 11 XXXXX ROAD                  11 XXXXX ROAD
>  Address 2. . . .
>  Address 3. . . . XXXXXX                         XXXXXXX
>  Ste/Post/Country XX  XXXX0     USA              XX  XXXXX0     USA
>  Salesperson/CC .     36 *     XXXN XXXXXXXX     Split . . . . .         *
>  Co. / P/C  . . . 20  *  100           *
>  Default Whse . . XX XXXXXXE MASTER WAREHOUSE    Customer PO . . 66869
>  PIC Revised date  9/01/71                       Cert. . . . . .
>  Notice Revised and Orig Dates!
>  PIC Orig Date. .  9/01/71                       Terms . . . . . 30  *
>  Print .......... T                              Terms Desc. . . NET 30
>                                                  Cust Tax Code .
>                                                  G/L Reason Code        *
>                                                  Condition/Sale
>  Corporate Cust . XXXXXX XXXXXX PRECISIO         Credit. . . . .
>  Order Status . . H * Credit hold                Bank. . . . . .      *
>                                                  Payment . . . . C  *
>  F1=Help  F4=Prompt  F5=Refresh  F12=Cancel  F14=Add Info  F15=Ship-to Maint
>  F16=Customer Notes  F17=Order Notes  F18=Ship-to Inquiry  F21=Delete Order
> 
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> It has been an uphill struggle the entire way through this testing project.  
>We
> probably won't take on another testing project where the client used +/- 28.
>
> Be warned.
>
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>
> Just few questions about some Y2K tools on BPCS V5.1
> 1) Is there any tools that convert the Date (-28 yrs) automatically in the
> database ?
> 2) Is there some people who has already install them (and successfully test
> them) ?
> 3) How many time to setup ?
>
> Pls Answer me about this (because the Due Date of the Y2K is not
> discutable!).
>
> Regards.
> Michael.
>
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