Re: RDI with V7R1?

[Dave <dfx1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I'm currently working in a shop that doesn't have RDi. The development team
is divided into several groups, each working with different technologies.
The AS400 team is small and of a rather mature age group. However, I was
very surprised to find that a large proportion of the developers are still
writing new programs in RPGIII. There is no use of ILE, and all
RPGIV programs are written in fixed format. Since being there, I've
installed the trial version of RDi and the 120 days has expired. I've
therefore been forced to rediscover SEU &co.
I would really like to convince the manager to buy the product. But I need
arguments. I think it would be easy to convince him if I were a salesman.
Sometimes, particularly when I observe coworkers on their greenscreens, I
wonder if RDi really has made me more productive. A greenscreener doesn't
spend as much time as I do, learning new things and losing lots of time
with bugs (which I am sad to see are still often present with the latest
version of RDi). Rather I wonder if, RDi is just good for morale. What I
lose in development downtime I win in organisation, speed in coding,
understanding, finding, etc. But in the end, everyone gets the job done.
Can we measure or prove that RDi would be worth the investment? If so how?


On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 at 15:24, Mike Hockings <hockings@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Just to be clear, there was never a free version of WDSC or RDP or RDI.
> WDSC (WDS client) was purchased and provided in a bundle with the language
> compilers (WDS) at the time.  In the V6R1 kinda era the product was split
> up and RDP/RDI was awarded it's own PIDs.
>
> Mike Hockings, M.Eng., P.Eng.
> DevOps for Enterprise
> IBM Developer for z Systems and Power Systems Software Technical Support
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> From:   Ken Killian <kkillian@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To:     Rational Developer for IBM i <wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date:   2020/09/25 09:11 AM
> Subject:        [EXTERNAL] Re: [WDSCI-L] RDI with V7R1?
> Sent by:        "WDSCI-L" <wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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>
> Dave,
>
> The old WDSC was release last Century for "FREE" on CD-ROM. But, it is no
> longer supported. Although it might work, it will not give you the full
> capabilities of the mature RDI 9.6.0.8.
>
> RDI does have a free trial.
> https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/rational-developer-i-download
>
> I know it is a minimum of 90 days. It might be longer.
>
> The last WDSC 7 was pretty good, and it was 100% free. But, does not
> support IBM i 6.0 and above. Nor does it support **free format.
>
> RDI has GREATLY improved over the last 20-years!
>
> You could try this "FREE" light weight editor:
> https://worksofbarry.com/ileditor/
>
>
> It misses a lot, including the outline view, and many more.
>
> Ken Killian
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WDSCI-L <wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Dave
> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2020 8:52 AM
> To: wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [WDSCI-L] RDI with V7R1?
>
> Hello,
> I am currently at a shop where all developpements are made with ADT. Noone
> seems to know anything about RDI except the director who thinks that there
> should be a free version available somewhere on the installation disks.
> Can anyone confirm this?
> Thanks!
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