Re: RDI 9.5.1 Right-Click menu options Alt + S / ALt +J -- WDSCI-L

Strange. We see the exact opposite.

We use and enforce the use of RDi for development, since it's a lot more user friendly and SEU doesn't play well with today's RPG coding. But debugging, that's an other thing. Almost everyone falls back on the classic green screens for debugging, since the RDi debugging is just so tedious.

Any useful shortcuts you could share?

Joni

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From: WDSCI-L <wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of Karl <k.mainville@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2016 19:50
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client for System i & iSeries
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] RDI 9.5.1 Right-Click menu options Alt + S / ALt +J

Same thing everwhere.

Most of the people here use RDI for debug. ibm i entry point)is so much
usefull that even green screen lover admit that they use RDI for debugging.
But for developping, turnover it's an other thing. I think RDI is usefull
and help to do better developing... but only if you want to.

I already try to show RDI to people that were not interest in... and I lost
my time, every time even with good argument.

RDi is much usefull for people who are interest to learn.

On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 12:55 PM, Ken Killian <kkillian@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Buck,

Excellent Point! It is up to them to learn RDI, if they want to learn it.

I hear all the excuses, such as "Only if RDI worked this way..." As if I
can control how Eclipse/RDi works...

I always appreciate your responses on this list...

I cannot change the Non-believers of RDI. It only leads to frustration and
game over.

If I run into a problem with RDI, a simply 10-second restart usually fixes
all. And it teaches me patience!

Thanks again.

PS. Thank goodness for snickers bars, they turn me back to normal over
little RDi quirks. That are make no sense in get my underwear in knot! <LOL>

I have been able to convert a few, but they were extremely open and
willing to learn...

-Ken Killian-

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Calabro
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Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] RDI 9.5.1 Right-Click menu options Alt + S / ALt +J

On 11/10/2016 10:00 AM, Ken Killian wrote:

I am trying to show him the path to RDI enlightenment.

-snip-

All the "Newbies" that I show "shortcut keys", don't like it.
I cannot seem to find the right-click menu options for ALT+S (split)
and/or Alt+J(Join)

I'm not a mouser, so if there ever were context options for that I
wouldn't know.

I'm no longer an RDi missionary. I don't go office to office loading it,
setting up connexions and filters, making a custom setup for each
'newbie'. I don't do lunch and learn sessions to show newbies the myriad
things RDi can do (like split/join) that SEU cannot do at all [1].

I gave that up.

Do you know why?

Because they like SEU. They actually like it. They tend to feel
embarrassed about it, and so they cobble together excuses as to why they
just _can't_ switch.

The 'shortcut keys hurt my brain' excuse is the one that ultimately did me
in. I mean, think about it: There's no power on earth that is going to
convince a man WHO USES SHORTCUT KEYS IN SEU to switch to RDi when his
insurmountable objection is -- get this -- that RDi USES SHORTCUT KEYS.

Game over man. Game over. Use SEU in peace. Truly, he's already found
enlightenment; he's in his happiest place already, and bless him for being
able to recognise it.

Very frustration to show newbies, and just have to say it is "buggy"
all the time...
<Big Frown>

You're not in marketing, are you? ;-)

[1] I know, I wrote a user-exit program that does split/join in SEU.
I'm comparing 'out of the box' SEU to 'out of the box' RDi.

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