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Yup, the migration from "IBM i" to Oracle/Microsoft/other platforms continues everywhere.

Several of my former colleagues, continual telling me how they are phasing out the "Punch-Card-Univac-400" as the PC People call it, a.k.a. "IBM i", which is "too hard" to remember that name.

The other platforms continue win all the battles. Just a matter of time...

PC are so cheap! You can string 100/1000 of them together. Darn be the TCO, just like at the price of single PC compared to an IBM i.

It is losing battle for IBM evangelist everywhere. What is the point? They keep marching forward with conversion to "Modern" Platforms, like Oracle/Microsoft.

A smart person know when the battle is lost, and completely hopeless...

Just hoping it is a slow death of IBM i, rather than fast one.

It is indeed very sad...


-Ken Killian-


-----Original Message-----
From: WDSCI-L [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Roger Harman
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2016 4:13 PM
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client for System i & iSeries <wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] RDI 9.5.1 Right-Click menu options Alt + S / ALt +J

I, too, am backing off my evangelism. Even when they see that my monitor, rotated vertically, shows 120+ lines of code and the quick compile/fix/compile sequence, it still falls on deaf ears.

The coming Oracle migration makes it even harder. Seems to me that it would be a great opportunity to stretch since the extract code we are doing is all from scratch.

So sad...

Sent from my Galaxy Tab(r) A


-------- Original message --------
From: Karl <k.mainville@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: 11/10/16 10:50 AM (GMT-08:00)
To: Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio Client for System i & iSeries <wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] RDI 9.5.1 Right-Click menu options Alt + S / ALt +J

Same thing everwhere.

Most of the people here use RDI for debug. ibm i entry point)is so much usefull that even green screen lover admit that they use RDI for debugging.
But for developping, turnover it's an other thing. I think RDI is usefull and help to do better developing... but only if you want to.

I already try to show RDI to people that were not interest in... and I lost my time, every time even with good argument.

RDi is much usefull for people who are interest to learn.



On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 12:55 PM, Ken Killian <kkillian@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Buck,

Excellent Point! It is up to them to learn RDI, if they want to learn it.

I hear all the excuses, such as "Only if RDI worked this way..." As if
I can control how Eclipse/RDi works...

I always appreciate your responses on this list...

I cannot change the Non-believers of RDI. It only leads to frustration
and game over.

If I run into a problem with RDI, a simply 10-second restart usually
fixes all. And it teaches me patience!

Thanks again.

PS. Thank goodness for snickers bars, they turn me back to normal over
little RDi quirks. That are make no sense in get my underwear in knot!
<LOL>

I have been able to convert a few, but they were extremely open and
willing to learn...

-Ken Killian-

-----Original Message-----
From: WDSCI-L [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Buck
Calabro
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2016 12:04 PM
To: wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] RDI 9.5.1 Right-Click menu options Alt + S /
ALt +J

On 11/10/2016 10:00 AM, Ken Killian wrote:
I am trying to show him the path to RDI enlightenment.

-snip-

All the "Newbies" that I show "shortcut keys", don't like it.
I cannot seem to find the right-click menu options for ALT+S (split)
and/or Alt+J(Join)

I'm not a mouser, so if there ever were context options for that I
wouldn't know.

I'm no longer an RDi missionary. I don't go office to office loading
it, setting up connexions and filters, making a custom setup for each
'newbie'. I don't do lunch and learn sessions to show newbies the
myriad things RDi can do (like split/join) that SEU cannot do at all [1].

I gave that up.

Do you know why?

Because they like SEU. They actually like it. They tend to feel
embarrassed about it, and so they cobble together excuses as to why
they just _can't_ switch.

The 'shortcut keys hurt my brain' excuse is the one that ultimately
did me in. I mean, think about it: There's no power on earth that is
going to convince a man WHO USES SHORTCUT KEYS IN SEU to switch to RDi
when his insurmountable objection is -- get this -- that RDi USES SHORTCUT KEYS.

Game over man. Game over. Use SEU in peace. Truly, he's already
found enlightenment; he's in his happiest place already, and bless him
for being able to recognise it.



Very frustration to show newbies, and just have to say it is "buggy"
all the time...
<Big Frown>

You're not in marketing, are you? ;-)


[1] I know, I wrote a user-exit program that does split/join in SEU.
I'm comparing 'out of the box' SEU to 'out of the box' RDi.

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