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Oh, I empathize with you.

"Why should I learn something new? RPG is dead. This new stuff just slows me down."

My boss did make it a part of their performance goals for 2016 to do at least one program from scratch in RDi (and, hopefully, free format).

I did a presentation on CL structured op-codes and subroutines a few months ago. Just saw one modified CL that someone actually put in a subroutine. Almost fell out of my chair. In a couple of weeks I will be doing a free format RPG presentation. That should be fun.

Jon.... I know you've mentioned that approach before. Sure wish I could do that. Would be a very entertaining day.

Roger Harman
COMMON Certified Application Developer - ILE RPG on IBM i on Power




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From: WDSCI-L <wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of Buck Calabro <kc2hiz@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 3:57 PM
To: wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] Resistance to using RDi

On 2/17/2016 5:10 PM, Jon Paris wrote:
Another approach that I’ve seen used to good effect several times is to simply remove the offending programmers authority to SEU. They get used to RDi very quickly!


On Feb 17, 2016, at 4:39 PM, Jon Everton <joneverton@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

An easy way to get developers using RDi is creating the source files where
SRCDTA is greater than 240 bytes. SEU throws a severity 40 EDT0303 message
and they can't open it. They might as well get used to it with IBM opening
up the first 5 bytes and removing the 80 byte limit. Unless IBM changes it's
other mind, SEU is as dead as DDS.

I don't know how I'd feel about management dictating my choice of
editor. A previous boss wanted to force the team into RDi, and I
actively argued against that. Should I re-evaluate my thinking?

Is there a real-life example of rolling out RDi to a team who must be
forced to use it? My notion of success is that they become almost
immediately enamoured of RDi and constantly walk past my desk to shower
me with adulation for finally bringing them to the promised land.

Here's what I think would happen. My colleagues don't have RDi
installed, or if they do, it's WDSC 5.0. Which they tried for ten
minutes. Once.
1) Schedule the time for the PC to be available for an hour
2) I install RDi + fixpack
3) I configure RDi; connexion, filter, not much
4) Claudia comes back from lunch and tries SEU (should I break PDM too?)
5) Bad words because SEU is broken. Switches to RDi window (which I've
cleverly left open)
6) My phone rings. How do I edit a member, I just want to edit a member
I don't want all this drill down crap, I just want to... Oh, Ctrl-Alt-Q, OK
7) My phone rings. I want to copy a line, all I want to do is copy a
line. Why do I have to backtab a hundred times to get to the sequence
number? No, I don't want to use a mouse, I never used a mouse before
why should I use a mouse now? Alt-L? How many special key combinations
do I need to remember? OK I wrote that down, now what? Ctrl-C? Oh
brother, like Word? Why can't I just use Word it'll be easier than all
this. OK.
8) My phone rings. I have all these sqiggly lines all over everything,
how do I get rid of that crap? Well of course I'm in the middle of
editing, I am changing the lines and every time I type one character and
down arrow all these pink lines and red squiggles come up. Why can't it
wait until I hit enter like it always did? Do you know how slow it's
going to be to change one entire line and the go to the next, and the
next? If I survive the epilepsy this thing is giving me.
9) My phone rings. All I want to do is compile this. There are a pile
of useless icons, I click Compile and I get a dropdown which gives me a
dropdown and I have to choose one of what 10 options? This is nuts why
can't I just compile? Ctrl-Shift-C? OK
10) My phone rings. How do I test my program now that it's compiled.
At least I think it's compiled. How do I see the spooled file? Green
screen? All this crap so I can go use a green screen? Host connection
emulator? Who called it that? Right click on what now? Forget this,
I'll start Client Access.

My descent into Dante's First Circle of Hell has begun, and so passes
the first hour. Of the rest of my life.

This hopefully entertaining tale is not entirely a figment of my
slightly eccentric imagination. To this day, years later, I am still
the subject of scorn as That Weirdo who claimed WDSC is better than SEU,
haha what a freak.

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