Re: Switching to RDI from SEU

Aaron,

Just in case David won't let me put hardware prices on a WDS list, I
won't....

But yes, I was talking about the compilers + RDi + RDiSOA. The bundling is
now in favor of adding RDiSOA, btw - at least for the lower end of the
spectrum.

Trevor

On 1/9/09 10:59 AM, "Aaron Bartell" <aaronbartell@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Could you shed any light on the $$ numbers we are talking for small
server config? And by "toolset" do you mean the compilers + RDi + RDi-SOA?

I can't keep up with how IBM prices things. Another reason why
RPGNextGen.com is becoming more and more appealing. I can only imagine
how frustrating it must be for the IBM RDi developers having a great
tool and then having their marketing screw it up - just sad.

Aaron Bartell
http://mowyourlawn.com

Trevor Perry wrote:

Aaron,

There is still one (small) thing that will ensure that the tools sell. They
are still bundled with the hardware for sale. For new boxes and upgrades,
the price of the tools is part of the entire sale.

That being said, I had a server configured recently and the person doing it
missed the numbers - I got back a small server and the software was 8 times
the cost of the hardware - yes, 8 times. That was mostly the toolset.

Normally, though, the toolset is about 90% of the cost of the server
hardware for a small server config (which is higher than ever). I have
recently done several, and can not explain the pricing in the configurator.
I even asked a prominent (Rational) IBMer to help explain, and that lead to
a dead-end. If I were to decide if Rational were in business to make money
OR to support their customers for modern toolsets, I would have to choose
the former. Which, ironically, the latter will cause the former not to be
met.. The recent price 'cuts' that are included in 'bundles', while they
have helped a little, really have not come close to the suggestions of the
community.

Then again, if you order a new Power6 520 server, you ~must~ order the ECS
modem. Maybe that is how you download upgrades to the toolset? If you price
software high, the customer should expect them to take a long time to
download? :-)

Trevor