I think one good thing that might come out of this is competition. I seem
to recall somebody built a PDM (and maybe SEU) equivalent some time back but
it didn't take off because ADTS came with the machine for the most part.
One thing that has trouble me is I NEED PDM/SEU when WDSC crashes or isn't
working. Of course I would imagine shops would keep at least one user
license for PDM/SEU for those occasions (which are fairly rare).
Anybody know of a green screen editor similar to SEU? I wouldn't count EDTF
as that does some crazy formatting to the source.
Aaron Bartell
http://mowyourlawn.com
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From: wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:wdsci-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of GKern@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 9:15 AM
To: wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] EGL vs. Java
Well, if you and Joe and Aaron can't make headway with them, my
rumblings won't add much. :-)
"We are screwed"
+1 (at least that's the feeling I get)
I've been following this thread and decided to take the wait & see
approach, but a few things I do wonder about keep popping into my head:
1) I still prefer pdm option 55 for compare & merge to the wdsci
equivalent. But if I have to choose either wdsci or pdm/seu, of course I'm
going to go with wdsci simply for the sep debugger. But if seu is no
longer being supported and I/we've paid for it's development up to
whenever Toronto stopped adding enhancements, then why (if IBM isn't
investing in it anymore) can't I still have pdm for the price of the
compiler? How is IBM losing money and what if any investment did Rational
ever have in seu?
2) Will seat licenses of wdsci cost me twice because I want to use it at
work and at home too? And what about using it to connect to both my
production and test systems? Does that imply four licenses? And what if I
want side by side seu pdm option 55 too? Is that 8 licenses?
I'm not really looking for answers to the above questions right now - as
stated I'll wait and see. I love wdsci, and would like to be able to enter
the EGL world too someday. And I believe Rational has a right to earn
money, but I hope this doesn't turn out to be another reason for us
die-hards to have to justify why the i is important enough to warrant
spending nnn dollars, when the CFO sees and hears about all these 'free'
MS tools available. Whenever IBM 'complicates' things (and this
qualifies), the 'deciders' always start looking at alternatives.
Regards, Jerry
Gerald Kern - MIS Project Leader
Lotus Notes/Domino Administrator
IBM Certified RPG IV Developer
The Toledo Clinic, Inc.
4235 Secor Road
Toledo, OH 43623-4299
Phone 419-479-5535
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