Re: EGL vs. Java -- WDSCI-L

Aaron,

I was thinking *just* this thing. When you look at how much you get in a MyEclipse subscription for $65 year, it is really quite remarkable. The good news here is that, after a year if you don't see anything in the future enhancement roadmap that tickles your fancy, you drop it.

Would I pay $300/year for a supported suite like WDSc. Probably, yes. Would I drop $3500 for a "perpetual" license (which would need SWMA in order to be "current")? Probably not.

The difficulty I am having right now in following the thread is the apparent slicing and dicing that is going on with tools and compilers and the like with this V6R1M0 release. Different versions with difference features that match different compilers and options. Heaven help us if we end up with an express edition, and a standard edition and a blade center edition and a team edition and .....

It is almost what Microsoft did with Vista and Office: There are so many flavors that it makes it hard to make a choice (at least a correct one).

But, I am still soaking this all in. With the V6R1M0 announcements, the new hardware options and the way the I5/OS is moving away from a specific hardware platform, it is devilishly difficult as a business partner to set up a sales and marketing strategy with so much in movement right now.

Seems to me a simple software subscription scheme could make this palatable. I only fire up WDSc for RPG app development and I have been doing little of that lately so, with the exception of the emergence of EGL, I may not need much in the way for new tools for the System i. Time will tell.

Pete Helgren

Aaron Bartell wrote:

I wonder if they could allow "renting" a license like MyEclipseIDE.com does.
$2630 is a lot for a single IDE if you ask me. If you use it for hours on
end then it can become more justifyable, but that isn't the case these days
IMO.

What if they did something like $300/year per user? Then if a user doesn't
use it, in year two they can simply choose to not renew. Or if they need it
6 months into the second year they can simply renew and have it for a year
past that point. I think people would be more willing to make a mistake
spending $300/year x 5 developers vs. dishing out $2630 for a couple of
floaters.

One of my customers said it best in a conversation I had with him... "They
can milk me all they want, but they can only skin me once." LOL!

Aaron Bartell
http://mowyourlawn.com

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Subject: Re: [WDSCI-L] EGL vs. Java

And RBDE is another $1500 per user (D6105LL), or $2630 per floating user
(D6103LL).

JK