Well, do these IBM guys really want to discourage us and make us move to
PC ?
We have to fight every day to keep our customers using system i, because
every day they get cheap offers from companies able to provide a "fast
done - bad done" work, running on PCs, written in java or .net, or VB,
developed with free open source IDE, running with free open source
application servers...
We, AS/400 lovers, really become some kind of dinosaurs, fighting lost
battles...
Tomorrow if I have to pay an extra fee for designing a webpage with WDSC
why should I have to spend big bucks when I got so few ?
Do I have to surrender and do as almost all my colleagues do : work with
easyPHP and mysql ?
During all those years, we just could sigh when looking at the way PC
people could develop their interactive programs, while we were stuck with
SDA.
Finally, IBM manage to give us a single tool and a single point of entry
to all our developments : RPG, COBOL, and Java. That was THE great advance
for allowing us to tell our customers that, NO, our beloved system i is
not about to die (that's what companies selling PCs tell them), NO, it
doesn't take old timers to develop applications, because we finally have
the same tools than the ones young people use in schools : WDSC is Eclipse
and even more. Just missing the Designer in the standard version.
And now they want to unbundle ?
I don't know how you say it in english, but in french we would say that
they seem to want to saw the branch on which they are sitting.
Joe Pluta wrote:
And so it begins... <grin>
Okay, here's the deal. WDSC 7 is the last version of WDSC. It is also
the last "free" version of development tools for the System i. With the
new announcement, IBM has now unbundled server-side tools (the
compilers) and developer tools. The developer tools are broken into
three basic areas: green screen, Eclipse tools for green screen, and web
tools.
The green screen tools are the old PDM/SEU/SDA you know and love, which
IBM still calls ADTS for lack of a better term.
The Eclipse tools are the parts of WDSC used to develop green-screen
programs, such as the LPEX editors for i5/OS languages, the screen
design aid, and so on. This new tool is now known as RDi, Rational
Developer for System i.
The full web tools include all of the tooling for web development,
including Java development, web page design (including JSF), HATS, and
of course EGL.
While pricing is not yet established, ADTS and RDi will be per-seat
licenses (think more than $100 and less than $1000 per seat). I'm still
a little unclear as to whether a current license will get you any seats
of RDi, but I think we'll hear more about that in a couple of months.
Joe
James O'Sullivan wrote:
Just got this IBM announcement email about the next version of WDSC. Am I
reading this right that there will now be a per user charge?
http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi-bin/ssialias?subtype=ca&infotype=an&appname=iSource&supplier=877&letternum=ENUSZP08-0123
Has anyone else heard anything about this?
regards
midrange.com
