RE: Introduction -- SYSTEM21

Our contract also specifies we get source code (except for Application
Manager) and we also would most likely never purchase additional Geac/JBA
without source code.   Withholding source code is completely contrary to
typical AS/400 marketplace practices.  Not only that, but even if you get
source code they are now saying that it can only be accessed by JBA or your
employees (with a need to know) and that all programming is owned by JBA.
What in the world does this do to the 3rd partly JBA consultants and what
kind of rates with Geac charge without any competition.  

Has anyone personally heard or read a Geac explanation for this policy?  Has
anyone received a written refusal to provide source code?  One can only
guess it is intended to force users to contract with Geac/JBA for program
modifications. 

Dan Thomas
Sr. VP Information Systems
MDI
4500 Progress Blvd.
Louisville, KY  40218-5058
Phone (502) 454-9013 ext. 120
email  DThomas@lpw-mdi.com
www.mdiweb.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Colin.Vancamp@acadiapolymers.com
[mailto:Colin.Vancamp@acadiapolymers.com]
Sent: Monday, June 12, 2000 1:00 PM
To: JBAUSERS-L@midrange.com
Subject: RE: Introduction







Colin VanCamp@ACADIA POLYMERS
06/12/2000 12:59 PM

Colin VanCamp, Manager Corporate I.T., Acadia Elastomers Corporation

Acadia Elastomers Corporation is a manufacturer of Automotive and
Industrial sealing systems.  We have System 21 (3.5.2b) installed in six of
our manufacturing plants and our corporate office.  We have several custom
modifications and a lot of custom reports, I am sure this is normal since
the reports in System 21 are useless.  In addition to System 21, we use
AutoRelease from Future 3 at our four Automotive plants to facilitate
customer EDI requirements.

As for source code I guess we are one of the lucky ones since we put a
clause in our contract ensuring its availability.  Our Account Manager
tells me we will not be given source on any future purchases of GEAC/JBA
software.  My response to him was Acadia will not purchase additional
software from GEAC/JBA until they change their position.  A similar stance
from everyone else may help right the ship.

Colin VanCamp
Manager, Corporate I.T.
Acadia Elastomers Corporation


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