My department consist of 16 people. We support all the 1,400+ field systems plus the 30+ in-house. We do the and distribution of all software (AS/400 and PC). We handle all DRs. We handle all WebSphere issues, we handle all Notes issues and we handle all 2nd and 3rd level support calls for the iSeries. You can be working on something and suddenly get jerked into something which has nothing to do with what you are working on. Yesterday, I was working on Central Security and was in deep thought, somebody called my name and asked about a process on one of our Unix servers that I had developed 2 years ago. ten minuets later somebody came to me about a Aldon distribution set that had vanished going to our DR box. Then I got an e-mail on a security issue. Still I made progress on the project I was working on. If you don't think that is cost justified, I don't know what is. Grant you in the office you will hear a lot of strange things going on and need to block it out a lot of times, but if you have a question you will find someone with a different perspective. Julio qsrvbas@xxxxxxxxxxxx (Tom Liotta) To: security400@xxxxxxxxxxxx (Security Administration on the Sent by: AS400 / iSeries) security400-bounces@m cc: idrange.com Subject: Re: [Security400] test? 11/04/2004 06:59 PM Please respond to Security Administration on the AS400 / iSeries Edwin Davidson wrote: >Not saying what you are doing is the wrong decision, I just can't >imagine spending $10,000US+ per AS/400 for 1,400 offices. I guess if >the otherwise lost profits justify it, it's the right decision. I'd agree except I have no clear idea what an alternative platform might cost to do what these can and will do. I have never paid for any Windows Server licenses, nor SQL Server, nor have I seriously had to configure them. I've needed to manage a couple test environments and have some fringe experience on administering them, but that's about my limit. I do know bits about the relative ease of installing and administering such OS/400 sites remotely though. I'd have no problem approving the up-front costs. Out of 1400 sites, I wouldn't be surprised if, for some, the installation labor costs alone could reach $10K; I've seen at least one SQL Server problem reach that level of cost in resolution trying to get an application running on it working, and the eventual fix was to start the _entire_ installation over from scratch. (Step 1: New system. Step 2: Format drive(s). Step 3: Install Windows...) Never got a resolution; never found out what went wrong. At costs of $100/hour, it doesn't really take very long to hit $10K. Sure, that's a probable freak occurrence; but it was on top of the base up-front costs that already weren't exactly cheap. It'd really be interesting to _know_ the relative costs just to complete similar roll-outs. Tom Liotta -- Tom Liotta The PowerTech Group, Inc. 19426 68th Avenue South Kent, WA 98032 Phone 253-872-7788 x313 Fax 253-872-7904 http://www.powertech.com __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp _______________________________________________ This is the Security Administration on the AS400 / iSeries (Security400) mailing list To post a message email: Security400@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/security400 or email: Security400-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/security400.
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