Hey, one thing at a time. No pushing. Baby steps.

We'll tackle sub-procedures at a later date.

Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: RPG400-L [mailto:rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tommy Holden
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 12:41 PM
To: RPG programming on the IBM i (AS/400 and iSeries) <rpg400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Is there a downside to using NODEBUGIO

If they are using sub-procedures they have to have a H spec to set DFTACTGRP(*NO), etc. anyway unless you've changed the command default for that so adding a few extra characters to that line of code shouldn't be that much of a problem ;)

Thanks,
Tommy Holden

-----Original Message-----
From: RPG400-L [mailto:rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Duane Scott
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 11:37 AM
To: RPG programming on the IBM i (AS/400 and iSeries) <rpg400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Is there a downside to using NODEBUGIO

There is that to be considered. But that seems easier than getting a bunch of programmers to add the H spec to every program they touch.

So many programs, so little time.

-----Original Message-----
From: RPG400-L [mailto:rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tommy Holden
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 12:34 PM
To: RPG programming on the IBM i (AS/400 and iSeries) <rpg400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Is there a downside to using NODEBUGIO

Personally I'd opt for the H spec (or free format ctl-opt) method that way if there's ever an OS upgrade or moving to a new system you don't have to remember to change the command defaults again.

Thanks,
Tommy Holden

-----Original Message-----
From: RPG400-L [mailto:rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Duane Scott
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 11:31 AM
To: RPG programming on the IBM i (AS/400 and iSeries) <rpg400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Is there a downside to using NODEBUGIO

Absolutely. But I wanted to find out first if there was a downside to ALL programs being set to it.

Since it seems that nobody can come up with one, then I can consider either that or the H spec.

Passive or aggressive? I can guess which one the Joker would pick.



-----Original Message-----
From: RPG400-L [mailto:rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Roger Harman
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 11:29 AM
To: RPG programming on the IBM i (AS/400 and iSeries) <rpg400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Is there a downside to using NODEBUGIO

Have you thought about changing the command default?


Roger Harman

COMMON Certified Application Developer - ILE RPG on IBM i on Power







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From: RPG400-L <rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of Duane Scott <dscott@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 6:54 AM
To: RPG programming on the IBM i (AS/400 and iSeries)
Subject: RE: Is there a downside to using NODEBUGIO

Pity. But I can deal with it.

I'm so old school, I still try to code within a 32k partition, so I think about the stuff that can happen behind the code.

Thanks for all the responses.

Duane

"Oh, look at the pretty bird!"



-----Original Message-----
From: RPG400-L [mailto:rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Charles Wilt
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 9:44 AM
To: RPG programming on the IBM i (AS/400 and iSeries) <rpg400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Is there a downside to using NODEBUGIO

*NODEBUGIO didn't use to exist.

When IBM gave it to us, they left the prior behavior as the default.

Charles

On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 8:12 AM, Duane Scott <dscott@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

So, if everybody (?) usually uses *NODEBUGIO, why would the powers
that be make *DEBUGIO the default? I was just considering that there
might be some internal disadvantage. The obvious advantage is not
having to hit the F10 key once for every stinking field in a record
(sorry, "column" in a "row" - I forget sometimes - I'm old) when you
forget to F6 the spec after the read/chain. Has anybody figured out
how to quickly find the read/chain that your stuck at?



Duane

-----Original Message-----
From: RPG400-L [mailto:rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Scott Klement
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 5:37 PM
To: RPG programming on the IBM i (AS/400 and iSeries) <
rpg400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Is there a downside to using NODEBUGIO

The disadvantage to *NODEBUGIO is that you can't debug I/O. For
example, if you're getting an error reading a field in the
(RPG-generated) input-specs, but want to see the values you're getting
on prior input-specs, you can't do so without *NODEBUGIO.

In my experience, this comes up very, very, very rarely, so I always
code *NODEBUGIO.

On 6/16/2016 8:29 AM, Duane Scott wrote:

I've been using NODEBUGIO for some time and wonder if there is a
downside to using it that I'm unaware of.

Duane

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