Re: SEU and V7R1.

I wasn't with IBM at the time so I can't speak to whether Bob really was responsible for this or not - however - the idea had been floated many times before at IBM. I might have been the first to suggest it back in about 1997, but others may have preceded me. At that time we did not proceed because the workstation tooling was not up to the task both in reliability and the level of hardware it needed to run on. That changed over the years to the point where IBM were able to action the idea.

I don't see IBM changing their mind - personally I do not think they should. There are better alternatives and SEU is ancient in every way and is fundamentally held together by bailing twine and chewing gum. Even in 1997 adding new functionality was an expensive proposition. I dread to think what it is like today.

Not getting at Nathan - just happens to be his note that triggered this response - but it is time we all got real about paying for tooling on the platform. Years ago IBM made a huge amount of money on the hardware by basically overcharging for memory, disk, etc. We all bitched like crazy and got what we asked for - commodity priced hardware (for the most part).

What is always forgotten though is that the hardware profits used to subsidize (literally) the software costs. They can't do that now because there is so little profit on the hardware, So we have to expect to pay for more for the software. It doesn't cost IBM any less to develop a tool such as RDi than it does MS to produce a tool such as Studio - but they will never sell a tiny fraction of the quantity so the price is inevitably higher. I don't like that any more than anyone else - but at a cost of about $400 a year for RDi I more than get my money's worth.

I'd rather IBM spend its limited $ on improvements to tools that move us forward - not SEU.


On 2013-06-19, at 11:18 AM, Nathan Andelin <nandelin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Anybody know of any efforts to get checking turned back on in V7R1?

In a recent Linkedin discussion Bob Cancilla, a former IBM product manager for Rational Tools personally took credit for the decision to freeze SEU. Anyone who knows Bob knows that his modus operandi is NOT customer centric, nor IBM i centric. He stubbornly and tenaciously manipulates for his personal interests.

I actually don't know how much credit might go to Bob for the decision, but I personally would like to see the freeze lifted.

-Nathan.
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