Re: SEU and V7R1.

[Vernon Hamberg <vhamberg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Product ID for Application Management Toolset is 5761-AMT - I did not 
find a specific 7.1 version, but no time - need to get to work!

Vern

On 6/18/2013 8:27 AM, Vernon Hamberg wrote:
> Hi Raul
>
> I guess I don't think IBM will go back. However, they do have a "new"
> product, Application Management Toolset. There was an announcement of
> this in April 24, 2012 - here is part of the description.
>
> *IBM Rational Application Management Toolset for i*
>
> To meet a common need of IBM i system administrators and advanced users,
> this new offering features simple, per-processor licensing at a price
> every company can afford.
>
> IBM Rational Application Management Toolset for i provides IBM i system
> administrators and other advanced users with a lightweight set of tools
> for the common tasks of working with library file system objects and
> scripting with Command Language (CL).
>
> Functionally, Application Management Toolset for i is a subset of the
> venerable Application Development Toolset (ADTS), which is sold as part
> of WebSphere Development Studio for i 6.1 or as part of Rational
> Development Studio for i 7.1. Two of the key components of ADTS are
> Programming Development Manager, commonly known as PDM, and Source Entry
> Utility, commonly known as SEU.
>
>
> Now I don't know if THIS version will support the new stuff in CL. I do
> know that it will not support editing RPG of any type.
>
> This does show that IBM are listening to users. And that they will
> probably not change the direction as to languages other than CL.
>
> Here's a link to the announcement -
>
> http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi-bin/ssialias?htmlfid=897/ENUS212-114&infotype=AN&subtype=CA&appname=wwwsearch
>
> That's all I know - everything CAN change, of course.
>
> Vern
>
>
> On 6/18/2013 7:49 AM, Raul A. Jager W. wrote:
> > There used to be a "long-established policy" about charging extra for
> > interactive capability, it is gonne in the newer models.  I think IBM
> > will revert the SEU policy.
> >
> > Vernon Hamberg wrote:
> >
> > > Alan
> > >
> > > If you have to use SEU, you can ignore the syntax errors when you exit
> > > SEU. The compiler still knows about the new stuff.
> > >
> > > As someone else said, this is a long-established policy - hey, when did
> > > 6.1 come out?
> > >
> > > HTH
> > > Vern
> > >
> > > On 6/17/2013 5:48 PM, Alan Campin wrote:
> > >    
> > >
> > > > I can't believe this has not come up before. Maybe I am blind.
> > > >
> > > > Looking at the articles on the new V7R1 features that Kurt sent out I see
> > > > this gem!
> > > >
> > > > Here's what's really interesting: SEU's syntax checking has been frozen at
> > > > the 6.1 level! That means that SEU will not recognize any of the 7.1
> > > > enhancements and will detect these new features as errors.
> > > >
> > > > This is a disaster!
> > > >
> > > > Both my current company and the previous company have refused to buy the
> > > > RDI tools and at $1,660 bucks I am not too surprised! Unless you work in a
> > > > shop where they will spend the $1700 bucks per developer plus maintenance
> > > > you are effectively locked out of using V7R1 features unless we turn off
> > > > syntax checking. A big reduction in productivity.
> > > >
> > > > Anybody know of any efforts to get checking turned back on in V7R1?
> > > >      
> > >